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As of the writing of this question (6/25/13), Edward Snowden is presumed to be at SVO (a fate, incidentally, that may be worse than actual imprisonment), but there is a disconnect between Vladimir Putin and Barack Obama about what that means. From the perspective of the United States, a wanted fugitive is in Russia, and in good faith Russia should return him. The Russian position, on the other hand, is that Snowden has not yet entered Russia, and therefore is protected.

My question is, what laws govern such spaces? Are transit areas normally subject to the laws of the country in which they are situated, or are they more akin to the extraterritoriality afforded to embassies on foreign soil?

Put another way, if a petty crime is committed in such an area, is that person subject to law in that country? If, say, a non-Muslim was caught proseltyzing in the transit area, or if an underage person was caught drinking, would the laws of the country apply, or would it be the laws of the country of which the person is a citizen?

Finally, if, as Russia claims, Snowden has not yet entered Russia, would the United States be legally justified in sending a police officer to Russia on a regularly scheduled flight, arrest him, and bring him home?

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the U.S. does not have any formal standing agreement with Russia in regards to extradition, though in good faith most requests are honored –  Ryathal Jun 26 '13 at 12:31
    
@Ryathal - I think the gist of the problem is that Russia is claiming specifically that they don't have jurisdiction over him. –  DVK Jun 26 '13 at 13:41
    
@DVK that's most likely true as well, and I think its a great question with a minor error that I expressed –  Ryathal Jun 26 '13 at 13:49
    
Eurostar is interesting here, because the border control is done before boarding. And that means there are French (and presumably Belgian) police and border guards in London. (I recall they once arrested a man who was wanted in France, and working in the railway station in London (I think that was back when the terminal was in Waterloo), but I can't find news reports of that now.) –  TRiG Jun 26 '13 at 14:10
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this is Putin's opinion (question is whether it's legally correct) - original russian and my translation:

"Он приехал как транзитный пассажир — и ему не нужна ни виза, ни другие документы. Он как транзитный пассажир имеет право купить билет и лететь, куда он хочет, — подчеркнул российский лидер. — Он не пересекает государственной границы, поэтому ему виза не нужна", — рассказал Путин. (src: Interfax)

He came in as a transfer passenger - he does NOT need either a visa or any other documents. As a transfer passenger, he has a right to buy a ticket and fly wherever he wants. However, since he did not cross the border of the State of Russia, he does not need a visa.

Bolded text the most critical. Note the fancy quibble - he did not cross the border... yet, it does not say that he's not inside the borders.

... "Что касается возможной выдачи куда бы то ни было, то мы можем выдавать каких-то граждан иностранных государств только в государства, с которыми у нас есть соответствующие международные соглашения о выдаче преступников", — сказал российский лидер, добавив, что с США такого соглашения Россия не заключала.

"Regarding possible extradition to anywhere, we can only extradite people to states which we have corresponding international extradition agreements with", adding that Russian did NOT have such an agreement with USA.


So, to address the actual question:

Putin's statement implies that they CAN arrest and extradite Snowden if they wanted to. He merely says the won't do so in this specific case due to lack of extradition agreement, NOT ebcause they lack jurisdiction.

Other sources disagree. For example:

"A person may stay in a transit zone indefinitely. A state has no jurisdiction over that area," Eugeny Varshavsky, a former head of the Russian Federal Migration Service (FMS) Department for Legal Support, told Xinhua in an exclusive interview Tuesday.

"Anyone in a transit zone enjoys immunity like a foreign diplomat: He or she cannot be arrested, interrogated or otherwise be restricted in freedom," Varshavsky said.

"If the state believes a person violates this country's law or poses a security threat, deportation may be considered, but only to the country of his or her citizenship," he added.

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The minister's remarks were correct because, technically, a transit zone's legal status was somewhat similar to the status of the open sea, Varshavsky said.

Such an area had a special legal regime governed by Geneva and the Hague conventions, as well as international transit regulations, he added.


Another wrinkle: Russia's rules seem to require holding a "transit visa" to STAY in transit zone. From http://www.russianembassy.org/page/transit-visa

Transit visa is required if the period of stay in Russia exceeds 24 hours or a traveler needs to change the airport.

But he may possibly have one

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As a side note, Wikipedia seems singlularly unhelpful –  DVK Jun 26 '13 at 14:30
    
Ya ne znayal, shto te govaru po russkie! –  Affable Geek Jun 27 '13 at 11:35
    
International Transit Areas are a sort of diplomatic enclave. Some are regulated (i.e. Schengen), some exist solely by convention. Snowden has already crossed Russia's borders twice: Once when he entered Russian airspace while in flight, and once when he entered the transit area (and exited Russia). Technically he's now outside Russia (broadly similarly to if he was in an embassy), and doesn't need to cross its borders again to fly away from it. That said, I don't think Putin would concern himself with such details if was actually interested in capturing Snowden (and... why would he be?) –  Yannis Rizos Jun 27 '13 at 13:07
    
@AffableGeek - you gotta pay attention to questions you ask :))) –  DVK Jun 27 '13 at 14:49
    
@YannisRizos - there doesn't seem to be any formal proof of what the "diplomatic enclave" status of Sheremetevo is that I could find. No documents, just hearsay and opinions from sources of various officiality. Seems the whole "international zone" thing is just a mirage. –  DVK Jun 27 '13 at 14:50
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