Timeline for Why and since when did Russia stop integrating itself into the Western community?
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| Mar 8, 2022 at 12:48 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | "...from an ideological point of view, nothing of substance had actually changed." I wonder if this is still true. Russia seems to be on quite an expansionist trip lately. | |
| Jul 28, 2021 at 15:43 | comment | added | MishaP | @CountIblis I would also add the historical pretext of countless invasions by members of NATO and EU in the historical past (Poland, Lithuanian order, Sweden, France, Germany etc.) and betrayals in some of the conflicts (ie England and France supporting Russia to start a war with the Ottoman empire, but then sending their fleets against Russia). The historical pretext makes it easy to see aggression in most western actions. On top of that, since the end of the Cold War, western countries tend to "negotiate" using "do as I say or get bombed or sanctioned" ultimatums, no one likes that. | |
| Jun 26, 2018 at 20:06 | comment | added | Gramatik | This account of the russo-georgian war is dubious, but the rest of the answer explains the Russian mindset on IR well - though sources/official accounts would improve it | |
| Dec 2, 2017 at 10:01 | comment | added | A.fm. | "In 2008, the status quo changed due to Russia's intervention in Georgia." .... from that sentence until the end of the answer is nothing but fakenews propaganda. | |
| Oct 22, 2017 at 6:40 | history | edited | Count Iblis | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 29, 2017 at 1:16 | comment | added | Count Iblis | @user4012 I do agree that Kosovo was a huge international issue with Russia strongly disagreeing on the NATO intervention. But as I explained above, it are the more subtle issues that don't make news headlines that explain Russian behavior since 2008. At least, that's my argument in my answer. | |
| Sep 29, 2017 at 0:49 | comment | added | user4012 | @CountIblis - my information about Russia is rarely based on Western media. Or Russian media, for that matter | |
| Sep 29, 2017 at 0:16 | comment | added | Count Iblis | @user4012 That's how it is portrayed in the media, but it doesn't really explain much as I point out in detail in my answer. The real reasons are more complex, it has to do with all issues Russia and the West have been able to work together on, where the West wanted Russia to be flexible regarding certain types of intervention when, strictly speaking, it's not allowed. When "strictly speaking" is not a "no go" if the West needs it and Russia can be pragmatic about that, then it's there that International law gets corrupted. | |
| Sep 29, 2017 at 0:02 | comment | added | user4012 | Kosovo was one of the major issues, actually. -1 | |
| Sep 28, 2017 at 23:23 | history | edited | Count Iblis | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 25, 2016 at 15:26 | comment | added | lowtech | +1 good enough answer. You only forgot to mention about US withdrawal from AMB treaty in 2001. Besides NATO expansion it was another major disappointment of Russia's elite in West approach to their country. Munich speech of Putin in 2005 was first real indication of relation are breaking. BTW Georgian war 2008 was started by Georgia as concluded by EU parliament investigators. It was all media circus, not real problem for relations. | |
| May 21, 2016 at 20:43 | comment | added | Matt |
@bytebuster It's rather just a copy-and-paste This is precisely what all your comments look like.
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| May 21, 2016 at 20:35 | comment | added | Count Iblis | @bytebuster The question is why Russia is behaving the way it is, and that means we need to look into how Russia perceives the situation. This Russian point of view is not consistent with the Western view (which I make abundantly clear); obviously not, otherwise the problem wouldn't exist in the first place. Now, I know that you probably favor an answer that promotes the Western view as the only possible view that any country must have, which would mean that Russia also shares the Western view but is not acting according to it. I think this is an untenable position. | |
| May 21, 2016 at 19:52 | comment | added | Be Brave Be Like Ukraine | -1: this does not even attempt to answer the question. It's rather just a copy-and-paste of political slogans from "Pravda" newspaper, barely having any linkage to the reality. A special gem is the statement about the Russian armed invasion to Georgia, worth a second downvote if it were possible. | |
| May 21, 2016 at 18:41 | history | answered | Count Iblis | CC BY-SA 3.0 |