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| Oct 29, 2023 at 20:53 | comment | added | 264 champagne bottles on ice | In hindsight, the drawn out Brexit had exactly the opposite effect you predicted here. There were no follow-ups and pro-exit parties suffered at the polls, some even abandoned their exit rhetoric. journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1369148119886213 | |
| Jun 28, 2016 at 15:26 | comment | added | Luboš Motl | Incidentally, I assure you that if you will be pleasing us - Czechia - with similar threats and propaganda when we will be leaving the EU, many Czechs will be eager to speed up things and kindly ask the Kremlin to use their weaponry and show you our disagreement with your interventions into our internal affairs. In 1938-1939, we waited for several years but maybe things could have been sped up. | |
| Jun 28, 2016 at 15:23 | comment | added | Luboš Motl | Maybe democracy doesn't get you, Germans, anywhere, which is why you seem to be constantly thirsty to get your Hitlers and why the Parliamentary proceedings are for you, like for Hitler, just unproductive babbling. But democracy has gotten Britain quite somewhere - it became the main world empire at some moment and the cradle of capitalism. So why don't you modestly restrict your recommendations to the Hitlerjugend camps and allow the Brits to live according to their values? UK isn't a center of the world but it's still #2 source of visitors to my blog after US ahead of Germany. | |
| Jun 28, 2016 at 15:20 | comment | added | Chieron | Of course it is part of a democracy, but it doesn't get us anywhere - I couldn't care less, who (personally) actually rules Britain, but rule, they should. Shirking away from that responsibility will only incite frustration. The UK no longer is the center of the world, but still too large to stay in limbo on such matters. The 3 months can be used productively - and the negotiation can take longer, but the decision to leave already happened. | |
| Jun 28, 2016 at 15:11 | comment | added | Luboš Motl | Let me remind you that German and French people who tried to dictate the Britons what and when to do in the past - such as Napoleon, Adolf Hitler, and Wilhelm II - were assertively shown by the Brits that it's not their business. Isn't it a time for you to finally learn the lesson? | |
| Jun 28, 2016 at 15:09 | comment | added | Luboš Motl | The "infighting" is a part of democracy and people on my side of the barricade - those that naturally and instinctively oppose dictatorship, whether it's in Moscow, Berlin, or Brussel - respect it when people like you mock it and despise it. If the British system concludes that 3 or 10 extra months of internal political debates and battles is what's needed, then it is what's needed. Get used to the fact that you are not the dictator of Britain - even Queen Elizabeth has gotten used to it. My call is even more urgent if you're German and you seem to be. | |
| Jun 28, 2016 at 15:07 | comment | added | Chieron | @LubošMotl watching 3 months of tory- and labour- infighting will not help in the dignity matter. At the moment, EU parliament votes hinging on the UK would be awkward | |
| Jun 28, 2016 at 15:05 | comment | added | Luboš Motl | And as MEP Zahradil pointed out, this is a decision that will influence years or decades or centuries to come. So trying to pretend that every 3 months are very important and pressure the U.K. to hurry up means to abandon their and our dignity. | |
| Jun 28, 2016 at 15:02 | comment | added | Luboš Motl | Yes, if I were a European politician on the EU side of negotiations, I would surely allow the British to decide whether they want to ignite the article 50 and when. It's really their internal issue whether they want to ignore the referendum or take it into account, and how quickly. The situation is clear enough. There is now a people's decision that they want Brexit - and nothing else. This makes the U.K. somewhat unreliable or provisional EU member state but it's still a full member state, anyway. The EU laws make it clear that their membership must be respected at this moment - very clear. | |
| Jun 28, 2016 at 14:59 | comment | added | Chieron | While the addressed problem is real, I doubt that this answer really holds true. Clarity and certainty are needed - would you want to wait until the UK government makes up its mind whether or not they will ignore the referendum? A drawn out exit serves neither side. The moment the exit-negotiations start, the UK vote in EU matters can be treated differently. | |
| Jun 25, 2016 at 17:27 | comment | added | Count Iblis | Czechoslovakia separated just after the fall of communism, at that time it was not yet well integrated in international organizations. Take e.g. the WTO, Slovakia became a member in 1995. But Britain is only an "indirect" member via the EU. For Britain to become a member after Brexit would require quite some work cnbc.com/2016/06/24/… | |
| Jun 25, 2016 at 17:18 | history | edited | Luboš Motl | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 25, 2016 at 14:41 | history | answered | Luboš Motl | CC BY-SA 3.0 |