Timeline for If a Brexit deal fails, is there a default fallback regarding movement of people?
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| May 2, 2019 at 15:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackPolitics/status/1123965600106151937 | ||
| Apr 14, 2019 at 7:55 | answer | added | Alex Hayward | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jan 21, 2017 at 16:00 | comment | added | gerrit | @MartinSchröder Each EU member state is also a WTO member in its own right (see WTO website). That's not to say there might not be complications between UK and WTO post-Brexit, but it wouldn't need to apply for membership. | |
| Jan 21, 2017 at 15:47 | comment | added | gerrit | @MartinSchröder Are you sure? Politico and Forbes say UK can fall back to its pre-EU membership. | |
| Jan 21, 2017 at 14:05 | comment | added | Martin Schröder | Since the UK is not a member of WTO (the EU is), the default would be even more bitter for the UK. | |
| Jan 20, 2017 at 16:22 | vote | accept | gerrit | ||
| Jan 20, 2017 at 14:22 | answer | added | phoog | timeline score: 8 | |
| Jan 20, 2017 at 14:17 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Jan 20, 2017 at 14:10 | comment | added | gerrit | @Brythan Does my edit make the question any clearer to you? | |
| Jan 20, 2017 at 14:09 | comment | added | gerrit | @phoog Maybe you're right about UK-Ireland, your question was why the other 26 EU countries would have a say, and some might argue along the lines I did. Time will well what will happen. Norway and Switzerland in the European Common Market, which I thought implied the EU Customs Union but apparently not. | |
| Jan 20, 2017 at 14:06 | history | edited | gerrit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 20, 2017 at 14:04 | comment | added | phoog | Also, I understand that Switzerland and Norway are outside the customs union. Is that wrong? | |
| Jan 20, 2017 at 14:02 | comment | added | phoog | but being physically present in Ireland will not allow a person to enjoy freedom of movement throughout the EU, because it won't be possible for that person to get into another EU country without a border check. So an open border with a non-EU country doesn't have any particular implications for freedom of movement. In short, Ireland's open border with a non-EU United Kingdom would not offer a "back door" outside of EU control for anyone trying to get into any EU country other than Ireland. | |
| Jan 20, 2017 at 13:56 | comment | added | gerrit | @phoog Schengen is about visas and border checks, EU covers freedom of movement. Brexit makes the UK-Irish border an outer border not only for the EU, but also for the European Single Market (unlike Norway or Switzerland). I don't think there's currently any state in the European Single Market with open borders to a state outside of it. The closest equivalent I can think of is the Channel Islands (in CTA, not in EU freedom of movement area) but they're not sovereign and perhaps special status in EU treaties, so it might take EU agreement to grant this status to the UK-Irish border. | |
| Jan 20, 2017 at 13:46 | comment | added | phoog | Norway is also, and I think this is the critical difference, part of the Schengen area. Both the UK and Ireland have opted out of the Schengen area, so traveling between either of those countries and other EU countries is already treated as external travel as far as immigration control is concerned. | |
| Jan 20, 2017 at 13:25 | comment | added | gerrit | @phoog Because the EU might have a say on what happens at EU outer borders. Ireland might be treaty-obliged to check people entering from the UK (Sweden-Norway is different because Norway is part of the Common Market and ensures the Four Freedoms) | |
| Jan 20, 2017 at 12:33 | comment | added | phoog | As I understand it the CTA is the result of a bilateral agreement between the UK and Ireland. Why would the other 26 EU countries have a say in the matter? | |
| Jan 20, 2017 at 12:09 | history | asked | gerrit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |