Timeline for Why is there no effective anti-gun lobby in the United States?
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| Nov 13, 2017 at 18:38 | comment | added | user4012 | @jamesqf - plus, there's those who are in column and and NOT in column B (e.g. they live where they can't own thanks to local politics, are pro-2A, but aren't members). I personally know tons of people like that. | |
| Nov 13, 2017 at 18:32 | comment | added | jamesqf | @Aviose: But OTOH, not all pro-gun Americans are members of the NRA. Their membership is around 4-5 million, while Google says that around 39% of households own guns. (IMHO probably an understatement, as I expect there are a good number of people who, like me, wouldn't tell anyone who might be connected with government.) | |
| Nov 13, 2017 at 18:08 | comment | added | Aviose | @notstoreboughtdirt I think your point may be the most relevant. Gun Control advocates have a myriad of positions from shoring up our 'current loopholes' to complete bans on all firearms and everything in between. The NRA is currently promoting a vehemently cohesive statement that all forms of legislation that place any burden whatsoever on obtaining firearms should be removed, blocked, or retracted. They only have a few million members, but those members are zealous advocates of their position, lending a lot of credence to the theory that "most Americans are pro-gun" regardless of truth. | |
| Nov 12, 2017 at 22:30 | comment | added | armatita | And I don't mean to open a debate about gun ownership. But I can look at articles such as this and try to form an opinion about even if I don't understand it completely. Know that I'm aware of the political leaning of the authors of the article I'm linking but either they're outright lying, or there is some serious problem that is not being solved due to complex social/economical/cultural issues. This act of justifying such loose legislation by a centuries old text seems to me a political tool, not an ethical argument. | |
| Nov 12, 2017 at 22:25 | comment | added | armatita | @user4012 That was not the point I was trying to make. One could argue that owning a gun is not something in itself wrong. I would have to agree. The problem is not gun ownership but "gun culture". Mostly countries that I know of allow some form of gun ownership, the US is not unique . The difference is in how that is perceived from a civilian point of view. One of the users here mentioned as being an inherent right of humans. That wasn't the question I asked but I got my answer anyway. The way I perceive a gun (as an object) is not the same the average American would. | |
| Nov 12, 2017 at 22:02 | comment | added | user4012 | @armatita - if you can pay for it, why the hell not? I'll probably trust you more with one than some people we had in White House. | |
| Nov 12, 2017 at 21:18 | comment | added | TheEnvironmentalist | There was a very good point made about the NRA having a natural advantage because it's much, much easier to stop new legislation in the US than it is to push it forward | |
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| Nov 9, 2017 at 16:52 | comment | added | armatita | @reirab I was not arguing the 2nd Amendment itself. I was arguing its use in the particular debate of gun control. Under the same text I could argue that I need a private nuclear submarine. | |
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| Nov 9, 2017 at 5:36 | comment | added | vsz | The question itself shows that effective organizations for stricter gun control are largely unknown. The part of the anti-gun lobby which is known, because it is very loud, has become so extreme (calling for full prohibition, calling anyone who ever wanted to even think about owning a gun as a horrible monster, and so on), that the majority doesn't feel too inclined to stand up behind it. | |
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| Nov 8, 2017 at 18:36 | comment | added | user9389 | I would perhaps mention unity in 2, and I think that's what @DrunkCynic was getting at. The gun rights supporters have a simple clear position. The solutions proposed to gun problems are varied and not always mutually compatible. | |
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| Nov 8, 2017 at 18:21 | comment | added | jamesqf | Another point re the constitutionality aspect is that any change to the 2nd Amendment (or any other part of the Constitution) requires the approval of 3/4 of the states. Many of the states have sizeable rural populations, to whom gun ownership is a normal part of life. Even in the rural parts of California... | |
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| Nov 8, 2017 at 17:22 | comment | added | Drunk Cynic | Recommendation: consider referencing the comparative 'consistency of message.' Such as, the transition from gun control to "reasonable restrictions" to gun safety, etc. | |
| Nov 8, 2017 at 17:20 | history | answered | user4012 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |