Timeline for Are racist attitudes correlated with income?
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| Nov 21, 2017 at 6:39 | comment | added | ohwilleke♦ | The short, and fairly robust answer is yes, but most of the distinction is mediated by education. Controlling for education, income is not a strong predictor. | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 17:22 | comment | added | Teleka | Or someone (not me) who isn't posting from behind the great firewall can use their superior google-fu to find a poll that just gives us that elusive income crosstab. | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 17:19 | comment | added | Teleka | @notstoreboughtdirt The correlation doesn't have to be exactly linear, and high school to college should be the biggest breakpoint, so I don't see why there wouldn't be a jump there. The point about age is very good, but that actually applies to wealth and not income, which isn't what the question asked. I guess you can you can try to take the age numbers, then look at the income chart and scale it by the population pyramid... | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 16:47 | comment | added | user9389 | I'm not sure I read a clear income proxy even. Education is one, but the jump an stall at some college rather than the smoother growth over all education makes me skeptical. And having numbers 90%+ is probably saturation since 5-10% of Americans report believing in lizard people or other far fringe stuff. Also age correlates with income and inversely with this tolerance. | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 13:56 | comment | added | Philipp♦ | I appreciate the effort which went into this answer, but I think we can do better than linking an indirect indicator for income to an indirect indicator for racism. | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 9:47 | comment | added | Flater | Polls like these are not as meaningful as they appear, because words like "approval" can be interpreted differently. I don't approve of full facial tattoos but I'm not going to try and prohibit them (though I will try to talk a friend out of getting one, up to a point). It's also equally possible for someone to approve of interracial marriage even if they hold racist notions. E.g. if I think of Jews as moneygrabbers (note: I don't) I might still approve my daughter marrying one of those rich bastards. Though often connected, racism and racial intolerance are two different things. | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 3:40 | comment | added | Teleka | @user4012 Blacks and white follow the same trendline from 2008 to 2016, especially since the gap has pulled closer compared to previous decades. Could just be changes in demographics, the question is very strongly correlated to age after all. | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 3:12 | comment | added | Teleka | @DrunkCynic I did say multiple questions would be better. I think it does help form a floor for racist belief though, and if we reach a further beyond the education/income correlation and posit that a single racist belief positively correlates with other racist beliefs we can sort of get there. | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 2:52 | comment | added | user4012 | @DrunkCynic - ah, ok. I didn't think of type II errors. You're correct. I still maintain that it's a better proxy than most other popular ones, most of which have enormous type I errors. | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 2:50 | comment | added | Drunk Cynic | @user4012 I'm not saying that opposition to it isn't racist. Instead, it is possible to support marriage between blacks and whites, and still be racist. | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 2:47 | comment | added | user4012 | @DrunkCynic - while you are correct, it is definitely a somewhat usable proxy (I don't have a cite, but I personally find it hard to explain opposition to such marriage as a concept to be based on anything other than racist sentiment). It's certainly orders of magnitude better than 95% of other proxies popular among progressives most of which amount to "do you support progressive ideology and progressive methods of addressing issues progressives raise? If not it must be because of racism, and not meaningful policy disagreements". | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 2:42 | comment | added | Drunk Cynic | The approval of marriage between blacks and whites is not a direct, one-to-one, representation of racism. | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 2:41 | history | edited | Teleka | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 17, 2017 at 2:40 | comment | added | user4012 | Not directly related to your answer, but I found a really curious data point in your link: the approval level among whites is the same in 2016 as it was among blacks in 2008 (85% vs 84%). Which begs the question of what made the 10% of blacks change the opinion in the last 8 years (Obama presidency offers a plausible hypothesis as the timeline matches) | |
| Nov 17, 2017 at 2:33 | history | answered | Teleka | CC BY-SA 3.0 |