Timeline for Why are Jewish related places being targeted?
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| Feb 21, 2022 at 11:37 | comment | added | FluidCode | LOL. The overwhelming majority of muslims living in Europe migrated from middle eastern countries. Therefore they are a semitic population. Defining them anti semitic as usual makes a lot of sense :) | |
| Dec 20, 2017 at 20:57 | comment | added | tim | @JonathanReez No, not for their nationality, but for their ethnicity (mainly). It's not directly related to the question anymore (your answer seems mainly correct to me, if we are just looking at the current outbreak of antisemitic actions, which indeed seem to be dominated by muslims), but your comments contained much broader claims about all antisemitic violence stemming from islamic extremists, and that's just not correct. Sadly, the far-right - and to a far lesser extend the far-left - are also active in that regard. | |
| Dec 20, 2017 at 20:51 | comment | added | JonathanReez | @tim that's interesting. I didn't realize Jews are attached in Europe (for their nationality alone) by anyone other than Muslim extremists. Perhaps I should rewrite my answer... | |
| Dec 20, 2017 at 17:13 | comment | added | tim | @JonathanReez In 2015 in Germany for example, they attribute 1246 antisemitic crimes to right-wing individuals, 5 to left-wing individuals , 78 to people with a migration background, and 37 to others. For violent crimes, the numbers are 30, 1, 4, and 1 respectively. There is likely a huge number of unreported crimes or crimes wrongly attributed to things other than antisemitism here, but these numbers show a very different image. | |
| Dec 20, 2017 at 17:13 | comment | added | tim | @JonathanReez At least the official statistics would not support your idea that most antisemitic violence comes from islamic extremists. | |
| Dec 20, 2017 at 12:40 | comment | added | Alice | @JonathanReez They were? Hmm, maybe I do have a bit rose-tinted view, I'll need to read something about it, thanks for pointing that out. I do know though that on this side of the Iron Curtain, both in USSR and in Poland, anti-Zionism was Party-sanctioned (and quite brutal at times). And nowadays there are no Muslim attacks on Jews in Russia either, while most are carried out by Russian nationalists and Imperialists. Of course, most Muslims over there aren't Arabic, that plays a significant role as well I'd assume. And OP probably never considered Russia as part of Europe anyway. | |
| Dec 20, 2017 at 11:26 | comment | added | JonathanReez | @Alice quite to the contrary - Jews have been mildly harassed for many decades after WWII by various antisemites living in Europe, with no sign of escalation to physical violence. It's only when thousands of Islamic extremists settled in Europe that things began to go beyond verbal assaults. So I'd say the statistics you quoted are biased, possibly intentionally. | |
| Dec 20, 2017 at 9:15 | comment | added | Alice | @JonathanReez Ah, that's true, stats are lacking in that respect. But I'm not sure if disregarding less violent acts is right either. 80 years ago it all started with "mild harassment" as well, and where it ended is still fresh in memory of most Jewish families, so those acts are if not as destructive physically, are certainly no less taxing mentally. | |
| Dec 19, 2017 at 8:55 | comment | added | JonathanReez | @Alice the main problem with the stats you've quoted is that they don't differentiate between violent acts (such as burning down a store) and mild harassment (paint-spraying a storefront, shouting "Jew" on the street, etc). AFAIK most of the physical violence against Jews is committed by Muslim extremists, not left-wing activists. | |
| Dec 18, 2017 at 10:29 | comment | added | Alice | @JonathanReez 36% in UK or 34% in Germany is not the majority. And just because they barely get above 50% in other countries doesn't magically make the rest 49% of attackers irrelevant. Note I said "Many of the attackers", not "Most of the attackers" in the original post. Explanation that works only for half the cases is not complete, all I am saying. | |
| Dec 18, 2017 at 10:14 | comment | added | JonathanReez | @Alice your very PDF says that the majority of the attackers are Muslim. | |
| Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 | comment | added | Alice | @JonathanReez First link in google: hlsenteret.no/publikasjoner/digitale-hefter/… | |
| Dec 18, 2017 at 9:26 | comment | added | JonathanReez | @Alice ... source? | |
| Dec 18, 2017 at 9:25 | comment | added | Alice | Many of the attackers aren't Muslim though. | |
| Dec 16, 2017 at 17:36 | comment | added | JonathanReez | @MoziburUllah yes, post updated. It's a widely known fact outside of left-biased media outlets. | |
| Dec 16, 2017 at 17:36 | history | edited | JonathanReez | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 16, 2017 at 10:06 | comment | added | Mozibur Ullah | Do you have a reference for your first statement? | |
| Dec 16, 2017 at 9:21 | comment | added | tim | Probably. But in the cases in question, it was specifically about non-Israeli Jews, and I think we should try not to confuse nationality and ethnicity/religion in answers as well. Otherwise I agree that the "anti-Zionism" of radical Muslims (and most everybody else, really) is just thinly veiled antisemitism, and that the recent attacks are largely out of that demographic. But this is of course not an issue unique to it; people from all sorts of backgrounds eg accuse Jews of dual loyalties (see eg Bernie Sanders). | |
| Dec 16, 2017 at 9:12 | comment | added | JonathanReez | @tim they would've been attacked if they were non Jewish Israeli citizens as well. Anything connected to Jews or Israel is a red flag to these people. | |
| Dec 16, 2017 at 9:07 | comment | added | tim | Seeing as the attacked Jews largely aren't Israeli, the "just" in your last sentence seems wrong. | |
| Dec 16, 2017 at 8:52 | history | edited | JonathanReez | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 16, 2017 at 8:41 | history | answered | JonathanReez | CC BY-SA 3.0 |