Timeline for Why don't US presidential candidates get thrown into jail by their opponent during election?
Current License: CC BY-SA 3.0
33 events
| when toggle format | what | by | license | comment | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Apr 18, 2023 at 20:18 | comment | added | Wag the mainstream media dog | The US have quite a robust legal system, so putting somebody in jail is not so easy. There were attempts to complicate life to other candidates: when Hillary was investigated for her emails, the questionable attempts by Obama administration to ease her life, the Müller investigation against Trump, the impeachment trial with unclear evidence, and more recently January 6 proceedings - but all of these border on conspiracy theories. | |
| Mar 6, 2018 at 17:46 | history | protected | JonathanReez | ||
| Mar 6, 2018 at 3:53 | comment | added | Readin | In America we are taught to follow the laws rather than following the person. "Rule of Law" as RBarryYoung calls it in an earlier comment. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 22:10 | comment | added | Russell Hankins | From what I've seen, both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump tried to get the other one put in jail. Neither one was successful. Sources: CNN, USNews | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 9:40 | comment | added | user4951 | Many western countries have laws against "hate crimes". Indonesia have laws against spreading hoaxes and laws against deliberately speek something that's hostile to any religions. I wonder if US have such laws? | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 9:38 | comment | added | Kevin Fegan | @SamIam - I disagree slightly but just with your wording. More correctly, many many people are jailed who haven't committed a crime, or jailed for a crime they didn't commit. But, yes, it's very hard to get a specific person, like a political opponent, to be arrested/convicted of a crime they didn't commit. | |
| Mar 5, 2018 at 5:08 | comment | added | Chloe | Because the US has the 1st amendment and the separation of church and state that prevents the state from being an irrational theocracy. | |
| Mar 4, 2018 at 9:53 | comment | added | user4951 | @SamIam that is precisely the issue. Some laws are rubbery and flexible. "Quite often we have, we know you did it. Is it a crime?" Kind of laws. This facilitates selective enforcement against dissenters. | |
| Mar 4, 2018 at 3:46 | comment | added | Sam I am says Reinstate Monica |
It's much easier to simply jail your competitor than trying to rule well. As much as people like to say that the US is corrupt and how the Rich control the legal system, It is really really hard to jail someone if they haven't committed a crime. Even if they aren't in a position of power.
|
|
| Mar 4, 2018 at 1:33 | answer | added | tj1000 | timeline score: 4 | |
| Mar 3, 2018 at 10:56 | answer | added | Jasper | timeline score: 8 | |
| Mar 2, 2018 at 18:58 | answer | added | Perkins | timeline score: 3 | |
| Mar 2, 2018 at 16:28 | comment | added | pjc50 | I think people are overlooking the importance of informal norms - it's "not done that way" in democracies with effective rule of law. | |
| Mar 2, 2018 at 15:30 | answer | added | President James K. Polk | timeline score: 7 | |
| Mar 2, 2018 at 15:16 | comment | added | WBT | Because nobody has yet announced they're running against Donald Trump, who was not yet President when asserting that his desired plan to deal with "crooked Hillary" was to "lock her up." | |
| Mar 2, 2018 at 11:17 | comment | added | user4951 | I think most christians, if they hear that people can use christianity to lie will shrug their shoulders and say, duh.... Somehow the judge argues that Ahok claims that certain interpretation of the quran as lying. Even though it's not what's said. And well, c'mon. Many scientists think religions are just tools to control people. There are economic of religions, and various sciences studying religions anyway. That alone should be like 95% probability. Implicating that. | |
| Mar 2, 2018 at 11:15 | vote | accept | user4951 | ||
| Mar 2, 2018 at 11:06 | comment | added | user4951 | Basically 40 prominent harvard graduate lawyers in Indonesia send analysis that Ahok did not commit any crime. However, Ahok got convicted anyway. One thing we can agree with is that politics play a big role for this. Another we can agree with is that the law is very "rubbery" and "flexible". Indonesia have many such laws. Most are rarely enforced. It's mainly used on "special" circumstances, like in saving some crook's ass, or getting rid honest politicians. | |
| Mar 2, 2018 at 11:00 | comment | added | user4951 | @Michael_B that is a very interesting questions. It should be a separate question. I think, most political scientists would agree that the charge is politically motivated. Ahok says that people can be lied to by using al maidah 51. Come on. How would christians feel if someone says that people can be lied to by using the bible? Many blasphemy cases in Indonesia simply didn't go through. | |
| Mar 2, 2018 at 5:14 | comment | added | RBarryYoung | Tl,dr; Two things, separation of powers and the rule of law. | |
| Mar 2, 2018 at 3:09 | comment | added | phoog | @Michael_B the fact of being found guilty in court doors not preclude political opponents being behind the prosecution. | |
| Mar 2, 2018 at 1:29 | answer | added | Zach Lipton | timeline score: 7 | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 23:02 | comment | added | C. E. | The Saturday Night Massacre is one example of why it is hard for a US president to obstruct justice. | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 22:58 | answer | added | user9389 | timeline score: 11 | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 22:29 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackPolitics/status/969338752458948613 | ||
| Mar 1, 2018 at 22:20 | answer | added | rackandboneman | timeline score: 7 | |
| S Mar 1, 2018 at 22:08 | history | suggested | CommunityBot | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
grammar fixes
|
| Mar 1, 2018 at 21:40 | review | Suggested edits | |||
| S Mar 1, 2018 at 22:08 | |||||
| Mar 1, 2018 at 19:25 | answer | added | jamesqf | timeline score: 90 | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 18:41 | comment | added | Michael Benjamin | You're making the assumption that governor Ahok was sent to jail by his political opponents and not because he broke the law and was found guilty in court. I'm not saying your assumption is wrong, but you haven't provided any supporting evidence. The premise of your question may be false. How do you know he was thrown in jail by political opponents? theguardian.com/world/2017/may/09/… | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 18:20 | answer | added | hszmv | timeline score: 25 | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 18:12 | history | edited | user11249 |
edited tags
|
|
| Mar 1, 2018 at 17:54 | history | asked | user4951 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |