Timeline for Does anything prevent essential government employees from quitting during the shutdown?
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| Jan 28, 2019 at 21:48 | vote | accept | JonathanReez | ||
| Jan 28, 2019 at 16:31 | comment | added | BobE | @David S - what I am challenging is the notion that "government employees" can be fired with ** no reason at all**. That is the essence of "at will employment". If you can cite federal law that supports your (and Wes's) contention. As I said above I can only find a failed bill from 2017 that would have made federal employees "at will". | |
| Jan 28, 2019 at 15:40 | comment | added | David S | @BobE They are "at-will" unless they sign a specific employment contract. The company policy doesn't change the employment status. You may work for a private company that requires documentation, 3 written warnings, two HR meetings, and a trip to rehab before they are allowed to fire you but it is still "at-will". If the employee can leave without notice, it is "at-will". | |
| Jan 26, 2019 at 3:29 | comment | added | BobE | @cpast - that regulation speaks to the notion that Federal employees as free to quit at any time. I agree with the beginning of the answer by Wes Sayeed, I just don't agree with his reasoning that federal employees are free to be fired without cause because they are "at will" employees. | |
| Jan 26, 2019 at 2:02 | comment | added | cpast | @BobE Here's a regulation. | |
| Jan 26, 2019 at 1:05 | comment | added | Wes Sayeed | @BobE; There is no specific legislation at the Federal level (that I know of) that codifies "at-will" employment into law, but rather, it is an assumption of U.S. common law (bls.gov/opub/mlr/2001/01/art1full.pdf). Federal law only says what you can't be fired for and regulates certain employment activities. Federal employees are also covered by the employment laws of the state in which they work, and all 50 states have at-will provisions in their own labor laws. Therefore, in practice, most every Federal employee is covered by an at-will employment law of some kind. | |
| Jan 26, 2019 at 0:52 | comment | added | CramerTV | Federal jobs are not at-will from an employer perspective. There must be documented issues to fire someone. The employee, on the other hand, can quit any time they want. | |
| Jan 26, 2019 at 0:00 | comment | added | BobE | Can you cite the legislation or act that supports the notion that most are at will? I can only find a failed HR bill from 2017 that would have done that. | |
| Jan 25, 2019 at 23:43 | history | edited | Wes Sayeed | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Added a bit about unemployment benefits
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| Jan 25, 2019 at 23:30 | history | answered | Wes Sayeed | CC BY-SA 4.0 |