Timeline for Why did the Tories in the UK cancel their bid to filibuster the anti-no deal Brexit deal?
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| Sep 11, 2019 at 21:35 | comment | added | Pelinore | @WS2 : "Is there any precedent for this?" : Oh memory, how vertically challenged art thou? Alastair Campbell, Tony Blair's Special adviser? | |
| Sep 11, 2019 at 21:03 | comment | added | WS2 | @Pelinore Cummings wields a power behind the scenes with influence over ministers but carries no responsibility for the outcome. Is there any precedent for this? The best example I can think of is Rasputin. | |
| Sep 10, 2019 at 21:21 | comment | added | Pelinore | @WS2 : It's one view perhaps, but it doesn't get us any closer to working out what Johnson & Cummings might think their doing, what their strategy is or if they even have one. | |
| Sep 10, 2019 at 18:18 | comment | added | WS2 | @Pelinore Under the Benn law the UK government have to ask for an extension by 19 October. If, for any reason this does not happen, or one of the EU27 decides to veto an extension, Parliament always has the option in its hands of revoking Article 50, during the ensuing twelve days - and at a time when John Bercow remains Speaker. | |
| Sep 10, 2019 at 13:13 | comment | added | Pelinore | @WS2 : I wonder if we aren't all focusing on UK parliamentary process too much, is it possible their plans are seated in the process on the EU end? ~ is it possible that the UK can veto its own extension request & their plans are there rather than this side of the water? | |
| Sep 10, 2019 at 12:32 | comment | added | Pelinore | @WS2 : "new legislation, which was granted royal assent on Monday, changes that, and will force the PM to seek a delay to 31 January 2020 unless a deal - or a no-deal exit - is approved by MPs by 19 October" : So, that only leaves Queens Consent (as that can be retroactively applied after Royal Assent, but only if Bercow's ruling isn't binding?) or something in the wording of the bill or an amendment to it. | |
| Sep 10, 2019 at 11:58 | comment | added | Pelinore | @WS2 : Did any amendments pass in the lords or commons shortly b4 the filibuster was cancelled? there might be a clue in there if any did. | |
| Sep 10, 2019 at 11:56 | comment | added | Pelinore | @WS2 : They may simply be crossing their fingers & hoping for all I know right now? | |
| Sep 10, 2019 at 11:53 | comment | added | Pelinore | @WS2 : I can't see any way they can force an early GE without Labours say so so unless they think they can (& in fact can) either ignore the new bill by invoking Queens Consent or Royal Assent (advising it be refused) or an amendment to the bill as it passed through one of the houses that I've not heard of yet provides another way out then for the moment I'm at a loss as to what they're up to. | |
| Sep 10, 2019 at 11:48 | comment | added | Pelinore | @WS2 : Still trying to unpick some of that myself, strongly suspect we'll have to wait until they get back in 5 weeks to find out if he or Cumimngs have any sort of strategy that isn't simply waiting for the 2022 GE. | |
| Sep 9, 2019 at 20:58 | comment | added | WS2 | @Pelinore Yes, I agree with that. But at the time that the Lords filibuster was cancelled was the PM aware that the GE bill would be rejected? So much has happened in the last few days the exact chronology has become a fog in my mind. | |
| Sep 9, 2019 at 11:54 | comment | added | Pelinore | @WS2 : "he hoped to get a vote through for a general election" He had no hope of the opposition agreeing to a GE, him calling for one can only have been posturing for the purpose of 'laying blame' & nothing else, to claim Johnson 'expected' (or even merely 'hoped') to win is implausible. | |
| Sep 8, 2019 at 21:37 | comment | added | WS2 | Because Downing Street told them not to bother, but get the bill passed. It would have passed anyway, eventually. And having prorogued parliament Johnson didn't want to waste any time as he hoped to get a vote through for a general election. As it stands, he may well run out of time this week for what he wants to do - and he won't have an election in place. So having run out of time he finds himself "hoist by his own petard". | |
| Sep 8, 2019 at 15:03 | comment | added | Caleth | The Lords never want to add to a controvosy, in case public opinion turns to abolishing them. | |
| Sep 8, 2019 at 14:14 | comment | added | Taladris | I believe that the main reason behind all these Brexit moves is a conspiracy to provide question material to politics.SE | |
| Sep 8, 2019 at 12:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackPolitics/status/1170668226767970305 | ||
| Sep 8, 2019 at 11:32 | answer | added | kami | timeline score: 6 | |
| Sep 8, 2019 at 7:52 | comment | added | Jonathan Potter | Most likely they got tired and wanted to go home. | |
| Sep 7, 2019 at 22:56 | history | asked | Sid | CC BY-SA 4.0 |