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| Sep 24, 2019 at 12:32 | comment | added | Luaan | @grovkin Declining birth rates compared to previous birth rates. Not to contemporary birth rates in the west. Eastern Block countries spent huge amounts of resources to encourage population growth (with a few exceptions like Russia that did the exact opposite), and also encouraged growth culture in general. | |
| Sep 24, 2019 at 12:17 | comment | added | grovkin | @luaan, that's not the case. declining birth rates is a major social issue in post-soviet countries. | |
| Sep 24, 2019 at 10:16 | comment | added | Luaan | @grovkin And of course, post-com countries do have substantially larger birth rates, the poorer the higher. It's just that they also have lots of emmigration that more than offsets the higher birth rate. Plenty of people leave for better pastures. | |
| Sep 24, 2019 at 10:15 | comment | added | Luaan | @grovkin The problem is that you needed even poorer countries for that :) Basically, you get lots of births in places where kids are a net economic benefit in reasonably short-term. That usually means things like kids helping on a farm or in a shop. Many countries in Eastern Europe are stuck in the worst of it - not rich or poor enough to be able to afford big families, and already well on the way from the traditional "mother stays at home with kids" (so there's no "loss of income" etc.) and the communist "kids are in daycare while parents work for free" and "child labour is fine". | |
| Sep 24, 2019 at 9:16 | comment | added | grovkin | @Luaan poor countries usually see higher birth rates than wealthy ones. | |
| Sep 24, 2019 at 9:07 | comment | added | grovkin | When comparing fertility rates in 2015, it would be more telling to compare them to early and mid 80's rather than mid 60's. The fertility rates in the mid 60's were still effected by the cultural aftershocks of WWII (and the large reduction in the population of the reproductive-age men which it caused). | |
| Sep 24, 2019 at 8:28 | comment | added | user2501323 | @Luaan, you are right, no doubt. I'm just impressed by that pivot on all graphs - in 1990-1991. The thing I wanted to make a point(and which was not found in answers) - does a de-industrialization make its part in de-population of those republics? How heavy states were de-industrialized before including into EU? | |
| Sep 24, 2019 at 8:24 | comment | added | Luaan | @user2501323 The people would have emigrated sooner if it was possible. Post-soviet states are still much poorer and struggle to find enough capital. In some cases, the governments and/or people actively fight against foreign capital. All of this increases the benefits of moving to a richer country. If you're not strongly nationalist (or tied to your home), why wouldn't you move to a place where you get many times higher income, better services etc.? And that's before you include things like health and social benefits. | |
| Sep 24, 2019 at 7:27 | comment | added | Vilx- | Something we've inherited from the Sovied Union - the majority of people live in apartment blocks. And those blocks are almost exclusively 2 or 3 room apartments. 4 room or larger apartments are RARE and consequently very expensive. Buying or building a house is equally as expensive. Surprisingly, even in new apartment blocks (there are some built here and there), most apartments seem to be 3-room apartments. And, of course, those are about twice as expensive as apartments in older blocks. So if you want a large family, you'll have a really hard time finding a big enough place to live. | |
| Sep 24, 2019 at 7:22 | comment | added | Vilx- | Hi there! I'm from Latvia! :) I don't have any data - so just a comment from me - but the impression from ground zero here is, indeed, that this is mostly money-related. Although we do enjoy a fairly westernized lifestyle, the average wage is still fairlylow compared to other countries. Just last year it finally surpassed 1000€/month before taxes - that's about 743€ after taxes. That's not a lot. Not if you want to have 2+ kids. In addition, the real estate market is also against large families. [contd.] | |
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| Sep 23, 2019 at 19:01 | comment | added | 264 champagne bottles on ice | Die Zeit has a really nice interactive EU demographics change map at municipality level! zeit.de/politik/ausland/2019-07/… | |
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| Sep 23, 2019 at 13:29 | comment | added | user2501323 | Fast and good, as usual, @Fizz. Would be greatly impressed, if you touch possible origins of such amount of migration (in fact, half of Baltic states are already out). | |
| Sep 23, 2019 at 13:26 | history | answered | 264 champagne bottles on ice | CC BY-SA 4.0 |