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Mar 16, 2020 at 19:31 comment added CDJB @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica I haven't represented it as a fact, but as a quote. I think the use of quotes from politicians and their advisors to contextualise questions is perfectly reasonable.
Mar 16, 2020 at 19:28 comment added Italian Philosopher @CDJB then that really ought to become a question in its own right Did China delay the recognition of the threat? rather than be a "fact" cited in your question. Right now there's a lot of spin by the US administration re. covid-19 so I would any statement by any member of the administration with a large grain of salt, esp. as it relates to China.
Mar 16, 2020 at 19:25 comment added CDJB @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica The two month delay quote comes from a different article to the FT link, and is a quote from US national security advisor Robert O'Brien. I don't think that article is paywalled, nor do I think I've misrepresented it. His comments have also been widely reported outside of that article.
Mar 16, 2020 at 19:19 comment added Italian Philosopher And having read your alternative article, it relates to known facts - the centralized CCP's aversion to bad news from below and its shaky governance model. It doesn't however point to anything like a "two month delay" which I find highly dubious and adds little to your, otherwise valid, question. Best we know is that people got sick starting mid-December and the situation was not recognized immediately. as Italy shows, there is no need for intentional coverup or willful bad management. The doctor being sanctioned is unforgivable, but is a political issue, not a strictly medical one.
Mar 16, 2020 at 18:45 comment added Italian Philosopher @CDJB I would agree, in general. However, this is not an obscure academic concern, and if there are non-paywalled credible sources and investigations backing up such a contentious allegation then those should be strongly prioritized. If you can't find any others, then that might be an indication that the article is not as solid as you might think. 3-4 weeks ago I tried Googling up any terms indicating a spread before Dec 27th and found very little to go on. The mass of covid-19 pages is going to make that progressively harder to search for, but nothing clear emerged then.
Mar 16, 2020 at 18:13 comment added CDJB @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica I think that objecting to pay-walled articles is ill-advised; the majority of scientific articles and academic research material that is referenced in the best answers on this site is paywalled. Maybe something to raise on meta though. Here is an alternative article.
Mar 16, 2020 at 18:07 comment added Italian Philosopher I object strongly to linking to a paywall article which such an inflammatory claim as China coverup. We don't know exactly how well/badly China handled the early outbreak, so any definitive claim that it was a coverup should be openly viewable if posted on SE. Otherwise we are running into the same rumor-mongering as Chinese diplomats claims that the US military brought it in: cnn.com/2020/03/13/asia/…
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Mar 16, 2020 at 2:21 comment added 264 champagne bottles on ice @CDJB: You should mention that article from your last comment in your question body.
Mar 15, 2020 at 21:32 comment added CDJB @IllusiveBrian This article shows that punitive measures were investigated in the wake of the ebola crisis; I can't seem to find more on that investigation though
Mar 15, 2020 at 21:29 comment added IllusiveBrian What exactly is the WHO going to do, block medical supplies and personnel from entering the infringing country? Is there any sanction they can apply that wouldn't be totally counterproductive to their grievance and mission?
Mar 15, 2020 at 16:12 comment added CDJB @ReinstateMonica-M.Schröder good point; applies to PRC as well of course. I'm still interested in knowing if sanctions could be brought in theory though.
Mar 15, 2020 at 16:10 comment added Martin Schröder The UK is still a permanent member of the UN security council. It can not really be forced by any UN institution.
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