Timeline for In Brexit, what does "not compromise sovereignty" mean?
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| Dec 13, 2020 at 17:56 | comment | added | Relaxed | @OrangeDog Yet, “sovereignty” is very much a key point in official statements from the UK side from the PM down so it stands to reason that they don't merely mean not being subject to the ECJ since that's not the main point of contention at the moment. | |
| Dec 13, 2020 at 17:51 | comment | added | OrangeDog | @Relaxed exactly, that's why the "negotiations" have gone nowhere | |
| Dec 13, 2020 at 14:45 | comment | added | Relaxed | @OrangeDog That's not how agreements work. Why would the EU hand over that power entirely to the UK? Incidentally, I came across a news report suggesting the EU is, in fact, prepared to avoid mentioning the ECJ or European Law. What it cannot possibly do is abdicate all sovereignty and commit to never draw any consequences from what the UK might do in the future. But let's not turn this into the debate, the salient point is that all this goes way beyond the ECJ's role at this point. | |
| Dec 13, 2020 at 14:13 | comment | added | OrangeDog | @Relaxed it's all "we want us to decide whether we've broken any agreements, not you". Plus any admission that the ECJ will still have power over UK law will trigger a big backlash from Conservative voters (and MPs). | |
| Dec 13, 2020 at 11:40 | comment | added | Relaxed | I don't know how likely it is for the EU to move a lot on governance in the current context and but it seems entirely possible to devise some ad hoc institutions like the EFTA court or the EEA Joint Committee to keep the ECJ at some distance while seeking much closer alignment between the two blocs than the UK is currently talking about. Consequently, it's hard to believe that all the recent posturing is only about the role of the ECJ. | |
| Dec 13, 2020 at 11:36 | comment | added | Relaxed | @OrangeDog Recent discussions apparently centered on the level-playing field issue (dynamic alignment, ratchet clause, etc.) It is in principle distinct from governance issues. For example Switzerland essentially agreed to the things the UK is currently objecting to, even though the governance aspect is still under negotiation. | |
| Dec 10, 2020 at 11:47 | comment | added | OrangeDog | When people say "we won't compromise soverignty" they mean they don't want to be subject to the ECJ on any treaty disputes. That's it. | |
| Dec 9, 2020 at 15:29 | comment | added | Andrew Leach | @jcaron Freudian slip. Move on, nothing to see here, honest. | |
| Dec 9, 2020 at 9:52 | vote | accept | Paul Johnson | ||
| Dec 9, 2020 at 0:12 | comment | added | jcaron | "UK fishers and Scottish fishers". Oops. | |
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