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Dec 22, 2021 at 18:25 comment added JJJ Yea, I agree that's how it's perceived on the Russian side. And I also agree that some statements by NATO members make it seem that way. Perhaps it'd be better worded as 'perceived NATO expansion into Ukraine'. It's also not clear to what extent the perception is genuine. For example, EUvsDisinfo documents some (unrelated) examples of weaponised victimhood employed by the Russian government.
Dec 22, 2021 at 18:25 comment added Pete W @JJJ - also edited to indicate that it is "in the view of the Russian side"
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Dec 22, 2021 at 18:11 comment added Pete W @JJJ - not my intention to argue the merits here, but consider the pattern as seen form the Russian side. Also consider that previous similar declarations regarding limiting NATO expansion were made and abandoned. More recently (Dec 9th), The Biden Administration did present some reassurances to Ukraine Pres. Zelensky that the option is still open.
Dec 22, 2021 at 18:07 comment added JJJ Regarding point 2, I noticed that you only presented Russian sources to support "NATO signaling expansion into Ukraine". In what way is NATO actually expanding into Ukraine? To my knowledge, there's only the 2008 declaration which does not provide a timetable (which was a condition for German and French agreement).
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Dec 22, 2021 at 18:00 comment added Timur Shtatland This answer is great. Although it is both long and well backed-up, I reached the end of it, and found that I want the answer to be even longer and have even more references at the end. This is in fact one of the answers I came to this site for. Thank you!
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