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Oct 10, 2023 at 11:38 comment added Wag the mainstream media dog I think the geography and demography are not favorable for using/existence of proxy groups. Firstly, because Israel is fighting a war on its own border, not thousands kilometers away as US in Syria. Israel did use Christian Lebanese groups as allies during the Lebanon war, but Christians among Palestinians are not numerous and had it hard under Hamas - I doubt that many are left in Gaza. Also, in the past Israel used to occupy Gaza, Sinai and Southern Lebanon with its own forces - return to this situation is not excluded, as it allows effectively preventing terrorist attacks.
Oct 10, 2023 at 6:57 comment added 264 champagne bottles on ice @gerrit: btw, the ISIS fighters being mostly in prison is better than many alternatives, but the situation is precarious in itself rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA2287-1.html As for your comparison, Hamas has a lot more power in Gaza than ISIS has in those YPG prisons.
Oct 10, 2023 at 6:57 comment added gerrit @Fizz That camp already exists — it's called Gaza... (I exaggerate only slightly) Good luck trying to occupy that (permanently?) using ground troops.
Oct 10, 2023 at 6:43 comment added 264 champagne bottles on ice @gerrit: also, since Israel is willing to commit 300,000 of their own troops, they probably don't need a proxy like YPG, like the US. It is of course quite questionable how they'd be able to imprison tens [if hundreds] of thousands of Hamas supporters, unless the plan to expand their permanent security forces significantly, killl such people outright, or expel them. But Syria/YPG style camps for the captured Hamas and their families are not inconceivable, as far as I can tell.
Oct 10, 2023 at 6:36 comment added 264 champagne bottles on ice @gerrit: it might not, but the US and apparently also Netanyahu have made the comparison. The Q is asking for the Israeli [official] viewpoint. Also the Israeli officials clearly said they want to remove Hamas from power/government; see quotes in the answer. Whether their goals are realistic is another matter, the Q was what they are, which is more less what they say, unless we're going to 2nd guess them, like you do.
Oct 10, 2023 at 6:18 comment added gerrit With Islamic State, there was/is an alternative group ready to take power (SDF / YPG), a group that allied with the West. The only secular Palestinian groups I'm aware of are DFLP and PFLP, which aren't very relevant anymore, allied with Hamas, and given their history of æroplane hijackings, are unlikely to be tolerated by Israel or western allies. Unlike Islamic State, Hamas seems to have support among the local population, and no-one is going to dare collaborate with Israel against Hamas. The parallel does not hold.
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Oct 9, 2023 at 23:19 comment added Italian Philosopher It's quite possible that the Israeli government hasn't decided on an exact course of action yet. The problem is complex: what the government - a fractious coalition - wants to do, what they feel their electorate wants them to do, what the military is capable of delivering, short and long term, and what they think world public opinion will tolerate. Hostages. Might take more than 48hrs. In many ways whacking say Lebanon, a sovereign nation, for attacking them would be much easier than dealing with a territory nominally under their partial control/responsibility.
Oct 9, 2023 at 20:18 history edited 264 champagne bottles on ice CC BY-SA 4.0
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Oct 9, 2023 at 20:14 comment added 264 champagne bottles on ice BTW, I dunno what's the deal is with that (first) video, right now. It says it's "private" now, but was viewable yesterday. It was an interview on a French channel (France 24) IIRC.
Oct 9, 2023 at 20:09 history answered 264 champagne bottles on ice CC BY-SA 4.0