A Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter jet shot down a Russian Sukhoi Su-24M Fencer Bomber near the Syria–Turkey border on 24 November 2015.

There was the immediate and as expected angry reaction from the Russians and apology from Turkey. This is highlighted in the Wikipedia article referenced. My question is did shooting down the plane change the dynamic between Russia and Turkey in any way or did relations just return to business as usual afterwards?


The shooting event affected relations very strongly.

Even "What if the Russian stop the natural gas flow?" is asked in broadly Turkey. Some Turkish students are arrested in Russia with no reason. Import from Turkey for most products are forbidden in Russia. And touristic organizations are banned to make holiday trips to Turkey.

But after 15 July 2016 coup attempt in Turkey it was necessary to be closer to Russia for Turkey because Turkey knew that the coup is made by FETO (Fetullah Gulen's organization) and Fetullah Gulen lives in US and US doesn't want to give Fetullah Gulen to Turkey. For Turkey it's like a country doesn't give Usame bin Laden and not acceptable. In short, counter-US politics forced Turkey to get closer Russia. And Russia thought that "if I can grab Turkey from NATO it is very good for me". Turkey needed Russia for Syrian issue too.

For these reasons both countries act like they have no problem with each other.

Added references in Turkish:

The title translated: "The biggest trum card of the Russia is natural gas" http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/rusyanin-en-buyuk-kozu-dogalgaz-40018314

This one is about Turkish students detained in Russia: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/rusyada-yurda-baskin-yapip-turk-ogrencileri-gozaltina-aldilar-40020136

This one is about import-ban which includes tomato, onion, cucumber, strawberry, orange, chicken, torism tours, http://www.bbc.com/turkce/haberler/2015/12/151201_rusya_yaptirim_liste

And after all those things why Turkey and Russia became ally again in 1 year? The answer can't have a "clue" because this is politics.

I can't demonstrate what Putin or Erdogan are planning to you but I've strong impression like what explained above.

  • Have you got any credible sources for this information? if so, please add them to the answer. Feb 21 '17 at 12:09
  • For now I've no time but I'll try to add. But my sources are mainly in Turkish. And I've sumed up a lot of things. Maybe we should divide this answer into different questions/answers? Feb 21 '17 at 12:18
  • Considering that the question asks about Turkey, it's fine for citations to be in Turkish (or Russian). If you quote them, please provide a translation. For example, you quote, "What if the Russian stop the natural gas flow?" If you linked to a source that said that, you could quote in Turkish and then say, translated that's "What if the Russian stop the natural gas flow?"
    – Brythan
    Feb 21 '17 at 17:01
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    @ismailyavuz I wouldn't trust a Turkish source much anyway. Since the Turkish government declared state of emergency, any media in Turkey is heavily censored. But your whole line of reasoning doesn't make much sense. The question is about a Russian plane which got shot down by a Turkish plane. But all arguments (except the NATO argument) you make regarding improvement of turkish-russian relations are regarding benefits for Turkey. The real question is what benefits Russia has from overlooking that incident.
    – Philipp
    Feb 21 '17 at 17:27
  • @Philipp there are some things which are not subjective like what I've added as references. My answer includes what benefits Russia too. Please read carefully. BTW, I don't agree with you about the censored media. I wish you could read the opposition's media in Turkish to see how they are free to say a lot of things.. In short they say to Erdogan "murderer", "rapist", "thief", "traitor" everyday.. No one is detained in Turkey because of just being journalist or something. This is a long story and here is not the place to argue about it. Feb 22 '17 at 9:35

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