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The motivation to this question is a news about Protesters Take On Settlements In ‘Biggest Ever Jewish-Led Protest’ Of AIPAC. A comment here, says:

"Group of foolish people ... Most of them don't even know the history of Israel and were mostly Muslim Jews ...".

I dont know who the Protesters are. Before this, I've also seen muslim Protesters that Protest against Iran, Arabs that Protest against Saudi, and so on.
This is like one say "real madrid fans were among barcelona fans and did that .

How can one realize a protest from a fake protest when one is not at the place?

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    Muslim Jews? Whats that supposed to be? – OH GOD SPIDERS Mar 27 '17 at 11:42
  • @OHGODSPIDERS I would guess Muslim Jews are Jews who converted to Islam – tim Mar 27 '17 at 11:50
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    @OHGODSPIDERS I suppose that the commenter was trying to mean "Arab-Israeli". Of course, the fact that the commenter did not even knew which was the proper term tells much about the general quality of the comment. – SJuan76 Mar 27 '17 at 14:00
  • I treat ALL protests and uprisings a fake these days unless I can find evidence to convince me otherwise. Consider the "Arab spring," what did so much to help the U.S. and Israel, NOT the Arabs. Do some research on "false flag attacks" and "controlled opposition." They go hand in hand. P.S. I witnessed the epic WTO protest in Seattle. That was a genuine protest, but it was heavily manipulated and misrepresented. – David Blomstrom Mar 29 '17 at 2:06
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First of, even if the protesters were largely non-Jewish (or Muslim Jews), it would not be a fake protest. It's still a real protest, which may have misrepresented itself or which has been misrepresented.

To find out what happens at events that you are not yourself present, you would generally use credible news reports, preferably from more than one organization, and possibly from organizations with different political leanings.

In this case, the JTA, Haaretz, Times Of Israel, and the Jerusalem Post are all reporting that the protest was coordinated by IfNotNow, which is described - and describes itself - as Jewish.

You can also check what political opponents write about the protest or the organization (note that the opponent should not be an anonymous commenter, but at an established organization). In this case, the right-wing FrontPageMag alleges not that the group is not really Jewish, but that it is connected to J Street.

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    None of the sources you cite are credible. – David Blomstrom Mar 29 '17 at 2:07
  • 1- credible news reports? isnt this a joke? 2- about "even if the protesters were largely non-Jewish (or Muslim Jews), it would not be a fake protest" I name it fake protest. u name it a protest which has been misrepresented; not important. 3- the last paragraph is helpful for me. – user 1 Mar 29 '17 at 12:52
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    @DavidBlomstrom Why not? They are legitimate newspapers (ok, maybe with the exception of the Times). You should really expand on your comment. – tim Mar 29 '17 at 13:16
  • Expand on my comment? Media corruption is something people should learn in Politics 101. Terms like media wh*re and presstitute exist for a reason. Deregulation is part of the problem. A relative handful of people have enormous control over the media in Israel and the U.S. Actually studying the media (i.e. reading them with a critical eye) can open your eyes. And if you're politically active, your eyes will be opened even wider. – David Blomstrom Mar 31 '17 at 0:16
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How can you tell if a protest is real?

I've been a political activist in "liberal Seattle" for two decades, and I've learned to be suspicious of everything. Even if a protest is genuine, it's a good bet that some of the protesters are undercover cops. It's very likely that the protest is being manipulated to some extent; consider George W. Bush's famous "first amendment zones."

Ultimately, you need to use the same tools conspiracy theorists use: a combination of research and logic. Do not trust the media, including the "alternative media." There are virtually no media that I trust. They do publish true statements, but there's always a catch.

Do some research on "controlled opposition" and "false flag attacks." Controlled opposition is far, far bigger than most people realize. It's the norm.

Edited to add that I forgot to mention the biggest piece of irony: If a protest is mentioned in the media, that's a good clue that it's a bogus protest. I've heard many complaints from protesters who can't understand why the media completely ignored them. Ditto for genuine activists; they're invisible to the media. Most of the "activists" and whistleblowers we read about are actually working for the same team as the media rats.

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    I don't see how your first paragraph is relevant. Obviously most protests are observed by undercover cops, and there are known restrictions on most protests, but neither makes a protest fake or directed by some shadowy organization. And if you don't trust the media, how will you do research? I don't think advocating for baseless conspiracy theories is the answer here... – tim Mar 29 '17 at 13:22
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    1. Who do you think those undercover cops are working for? 2. Are you suggesting that you can't do research unless you throw caution to the wind and trust the media??? In fact, media corruption is something that should be taught in Politics 101. The corruption is so extensive it can be hard to comprehend at first, but it's reality. – David Blomstrom Mar 29 '17 at 22:47
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    @DavidBlomstrom What research do you suggest doing? If you can't trust any news reports of a protest, what information do you trust? – Bobson Mar 29 '17 at 23:03
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    That's a good question. You have to first do your homework, then learn how to play detective. You can glean some information from the media, but you have to treat it with suspicion. Independent bloggers are another source of information - though they can't all be trusted, either. Interviewing people involved with a protest yourself is a smart move. Actual experience in political activism will also help you connect the dots. – David Blomstrom Mar 29 '17 at 23:46
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    P.S. As I mentioned above, I was a part of the epic WTO protest. It was mentioned in the media because it was far too big to ignore. But what they wrote about it was unbelievably inaccurate. The media LIED about it. A movie was made about the WTO protest. Not surprisingly, it was also manipulated; they even made up a fictitious mayor! – David Blomstrom Mar 30 '17 at 1:24

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