It is often reported that Russia has one of the largest neo-Nazi communities in the world. Which to me seems utterly bizarre. As I understand it, Germany's National Socialists in theory and practice, private and public, regarded all Slavic people as little better than Jews or Roma in their racial hierarchy. Their plans to expel, enslave, and murder Russians in order to colonise the east was an inalienable part of Nazism.

How then do those Russians reconcile being Slavic Nazis? I can think of few better examples of Turkeys voting for Christmas. The claim mentioned on Wikipedia is that the German-Soviet non-aggression pact is emphasised as evidence somehow, but that seems to be cherry picking one or two things from a huge amount of evidence to the contrary. Is that an accurate assessment?

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    "How then do those Russians reconcile being Slavic Nazis?" Like their US counterparts. s/Aryan/White/ – Denis de Bernardy Aug 21 '17 at 8:58
  • @DenisdeBernardy The main difference there is that there's a significant number of Americans with German or Scandinavian ancestry. But I don't think there's many Russians with German these days? Of course I could be wrong on both counts. Evidenced answers appreciated. – inappropriateCode Aug 21 '17 at 9:01
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    There is nothing bizarre when come to politics and ideology. – mootmoot Aug 21 '17 at 9:32
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    There are groups of people with similar mindsets everywhere, from all races. The only strange thing is that in Russia they did chose the "Nazi" label for themselves, even if the "proper" Nazis considered Russians subhuman. I am betting on "brand recognition", even if that implies that implies twisting historical facts and doctrine a lot. – SJuan76 Aug 21 '17 at 11:49
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    If you find Russian Nazis strange, wait till you encounter jewish Nazis. (Yep, they do exist.) – Guran Aug 21 '17 at 14:19

The cornerstones of the ideology of Russian Neo-Nazis is anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism. They are better traced to the Black Hundreds far-right antisemitic organization of Russian Empire rather than Nazi Germany (even if they adopted a lot of Nazi symbolism).

As such, most of Neo-Nazi organizations in Russia are patriotic and imperialist. They believe that the USSR and/or Russian Empire were destroyed by the Jews.

They do not trace their origin towards German Nazi Party, and as such, do not claim to share exactly the same ideology.

The predominant opinion on WWII, I think, is "Hitler was doing good job in killing Jews, but he should unite with Russia against the West, but he mistakenly invaded Russia."

Notice that the Holocaust denial is not widespread in Russian Neo-Nazis, they mostly support the Holocaust, or use it to accuse the Jews of being evil ("look, everyone hates Jews, this cannot be for nothing") or claim Russians saved the Jews, perhaps they should not, as the Jews are not grateful enough.

The Neo-Nazis in Russia are mostly anti-American and Anti-Semitic. They think the Jews destroyed the USSR so to steal property.

The Neo-Nazis in Russia are mostly anti-American and Anti-Semitic. They think the Jews destroyed the USSR so to steal property.

I would add that in the Eastern European countries bordering Russia, such as Ukraine, Belarus, and the Baltics, there are many Neo-Nazis, but they have very different ideology compared to Russian Neo-Nazis. They are usually very anti-Russian, pro-Western, pro-American and less anti-Semitic.

Their ideology is mostly based around local pro-Nazi collaborationist units or organizations during WWII.

They often engage in denial that their local collaborationist units participated in Holocaust and other atrocities (it was all done by the Germans, you know, but we only fought for freedom against Stalinism) and/or claim it was a mistake, excess, exaggerated (by the Soviets), or because of the general cruelty of the war.

enter image description here The Neo-Nazis in Ukraine are predominantly anti-Russian and pro-American.

The pro-Russian Nazis are usually more racist and anti-Muslim as well, at least demanding Muslims to be controlled, deported to native areas and giving preference to Russian culture, while pro-Western Nazis often consider local Muslims as "brothers who also suffered from Russian opression".

Regarding Russian history, the pro-Western Nazis usually do not differentiate between Russian Empire, the USSR and modern Russia, they hate all, but the most hated leaders are probably, Cathrine II for Russian Empire, Stalin for the USSR and Putin for modern Russia.

The pro-Russian Neo-Nazis are OK about Russian Empire, view the Revolution of 1917 as Judeo-Masonic conspiracy against Russian people, view Stalin in positive light for purging the government from Jews, and usually positive about post-Stalin USSR while hating some of its leaders such as Khrushchev and Gorbachev as traitors. They very much hate Yeltsin, but divided about Putin, with their attitude towards him gradually worsens with time.

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    Interesting differences in opinion between Russian and neighbouring cultures. Can you put any links in answer for further reading and citation, please? – inappropriateCode Aug 21 '17 at 9:25
  • @inappropriateCode usually the nighboring countries pro-nazism rise ( even if small ) can be explained by the post-war repression and famine imposed to those that fell too easily into germany's hands. – CptEric Aug 21 '17 at 10:57
  • Would like to accept this answer but needs a few more citations to prove claims. – inappropriateCode Aug 16 at 9:14
  • You might want to include that the Ukranian Nazis are a government approved paramilitary force fighting in eastern Ukraine. And I would assume per capita, there are lots more Nazis in Ukraine than there are in Russia. – dan-klasson Oct 23 at 20:12

You are confusing 2 principles that in 1930s Germany came together in a single political group: National Socialism and German racial supremacy.

Those two don't need to go together. In fact anywhere except in Germany they can't go together. In Russia, national socialism would and does go together with Russian racial supremacy. In Zaire (to give an example) it would be national socialism with Zairian racial supremacy.

This is because the very nature of national socialism makes its adherents consider themselves (and with that their race/nationality) superior in all regards to everyone else.

Hence Russian nazis think themselves superior to Germans, while German nazis think themselves superior to Russians.

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    So they're more like fachists incorrectly named "nazis", right ? – Bregalad Aug 21 '17 at 17:57
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    @Bregalad no, they're both. Fascism is one face of national socialism. – jwenting Aug 22 '17 at 5:39
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    @jwenting "Fascism is one face of national socialism" Plainly incorrect. Italian Fascism came first. It was an inspiration for German, Spanish, etc, varieties of Fascism later. – inappropriateCode Aug 22 '17 at 15:37
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    @inappropriateCode fascism is still a face of national socialism, just because you can be a fascist without being a national socialist doesn't mean national socialists aren't fascists. – jwenting Aug 23 '17 at 6:56
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    @jwenting I think we're getting a bit confused, but perhaps understand the same thing? The initial phrase you used implied a child-parent relationship between Fascism-National Socialism. Which is the opposite of what you just said to clarify? :O – inappropriateCode Aug 23 '17 at 7:04

There is nothing bizarre when come to politics and ideology. – mootmoot

To be honest those people are so uneducated and stupid you shouldn't expect a rationale out of them. – Bregalad

There are groups of people with similar mindsets everywhere, from all races. The only strange thing is that in Russia they did chose the "Nazi" label for themselves (...) I am betting on "brand recognition", even if that implies that implies twisting historical facts and doctrine a lot. – SJuan76

Many of the comments here are right to suggest that most political movements that emphasise cultural imperialism and 'racial superiority' do not need any ideological coherence, but only a self-serving agenda and the right socio-economic 'climate that favors growth.'

Wikipedia suggests that Russia has had this climate after the collapse of the USSR:

The dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 caused great economic and social problems, including widespread unemployment and poverty. Several far right paramilitary organizations were able to tap into popular discontent, particularly among marginalized, lesser educated and unemployed youths. Of the three major age groups — youths, adults, and the elderly — youths may have been hit the hardest.

In addition, one of the paradoxical psychological tactics often employed by a sub-section of human beings and societies to maintain internal sense of dignity during or after oppression is to identify with the oppressor.

  • Marginalized individuals have a difficult time getting noticed. Pseudo fascism is instant recognition. However, such groups are perhaps most dangerous as energetic, suggestable groups looking for a cause. – TomO Aug 25 '17 at 20:45
  • Yes indeed @TomO -- and that is why fascist and pseudo-fascist movements tend to have a massive inferiority complex (unlike aristocratic social groups) -- they need to 'put others down' to boost their own social self-esteem. Dangerous because a charismatic leader can use them in violent ways, as proved by history. – English Student Aug 25 '17 at 20:51

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