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The Wikipedia definition of the term 'white nationalist' is "A type of nationalism or pan-nationalism which holds the belief that white people are a race and seeks to develop and maintain a white national identity."

In light of the recent events in Charlottesville, this ideology is facing a lot of criticism in the media.

What are the main arguments made by notable proponents of White Nationalism for this ideology? Please add a source for each argument you mention in your answers. Primary sources should come from the words of contemporary thought leaders in the movement, not from summations of news articles or websites.

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    In light of the recent events in Charlottesville, this ideology is facing a lot of criticism in the media. Really it was viewed critically by the majority of people long before Charlottesville. Also, great question, +1. – David Grinberg Aug 31 '17 at 13:44
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    This is also the problem I have with this question, by the way. I'm all in favour of questions asking about people's motivations, but would a "What are the arguments in favour of Nazi Germany?" or "What are the good things Stalin did?" be accepted here? Probably not. There is a lot of grey area, but basically this question seems to be asking "What are good arguments in favour of racism?". I'll hold of voting to close for now, but this entire question sits very uneasy with me. – user11249 Aug 31 '17 at 16:51
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    The edit makes this question even more volatile. I agree with carpetsmoker. Asking us to give us good reasons for something like Hitler's reign but "don't mention articles that paint him in a bad light" is about as a biased way of asking a question as one can get. – user1530 Aug 31 '17 at 17:23
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    @Carpetsmoker It sure sits uneasy, but to me, that's what makes the question great. Any fool can explain why nazis are bad. Explaining why such an ideology gained massive support (and still attracts followers) is another matter. – Guran Sep 1 '17 at 7:52
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The argument for white nationalism is that it is (supposedly) good for the white race.

It seeks to "secure the existence of our [white] people and a future for white children" (14 words, which is a somewhat common slogan among white nationalists).

We can for example see this in the Charlottesville Statement by Richard Spencer.

It states that "race matters", and "whites alone defined America as a European society".

It is no coincidence that the second point is "Jews", as antisemitism is an important element of white nationalism (we also saw this in the referenced Charlottesville rally). Spencer's statement implies that Jews are a danger as they "[express] hostility towards their hosts". Thus, "Nations must secure their existence" by being transformed into an ethno-state (i.e. a white-only state).

White nationalists have an us-vs-them view regarding race in general. See for example this post by Vincent Law, which states "They [="Foreign tribes"] don’t have your best interests at heart. They have theirs".

We can see that white nationalists believe that they need to fight for the survival of the white race.

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    Anti-Semitism is a part of most manifestations of white nationalism, but not all. Jared Taylor, for instance, is opposed to anti-Semitism. Many white nationalists, although critical of what they consider to be excessive Jewish influence in Western societies, are in favour of ethnostates like Israel and the ideology of Zionism. – user5904 Sep 3 '17 at 21:32
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    @MathematicsStudent1122 Sure, there is always the exception that proofs the rule. But as you state, most are "critical of [...] excessive Jewish influence", ie antisemitic. Antisemitism has always been a cornerstone of white supremacy/nationalism, even if the odd white supremacist can be found who disagrees. I would also strongly disagree with your comment regarding Zionism and white supremacy/nationalism, but it's getting off-topic (the topic might make for a decent separate question). – tim Sep 4 '17 at 17:58
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    @MathematicsStudent1122 It's ironic how Israel is held up as an example of an "ethnostate", when its history has always been marred by racism between Jewish groups. And more ironically still these tensions have been calmed largely by intermarriage between the different groups. "We want a state like Israel" "You mean one where different groups intermarry?" "..." – inappropriateCode Sep 5 '17 at 11:47
  • This seems more like a restatement of the White Nationalism's goals rather than an argument that the movement makes in support of its positions. – grovkin Jan 18 at 23:57
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I'm basing here ideology on position of Jared Taylor as expressed on website of American Renaissance. In Wikipedia he is referred as "white nationalist, white supremacist, and racist", while he claims that his position is merely "white advocate". As he was pointed out in other answers, I'd consider him as important enough. Moreover ADL calls him as "academic racist" who "has also spoken a number of times at colleges in the U.S., where students who have embraced a white supremacist ideology see him as a spokesperson for their cause", so seems suitable. In consequence this list of arguments should be rather internally consistent, but at expense of neglecting other views within such movements.

1) All ethnic groups have fully legitimate interests and is generally acceptable for other ethnic groups to openly pursue them

Racial loyalty or racial consciousness is normal and healthy. All non-white groups instinctively pursue their own interests, and legitimately so. It is only whites who have been taught that it is immoral to take even the most basic steps to ensure their survival.

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2) Differences in outcome among ethnic groups are mainly result of genetic differences, which explains why prior attempts to ameliorate them failed

Regression toward the mean explains something that has always baffled the “sociologists:” children of low-income whites (and Asians) get better SAT scores than the children of high-income blacks. If environment controls IQ, the children of wealthy blacks should be enjoying the benefits of good environment. They are, but those benefits are meager and do not make up for the effects of heredity and the lower mean toward which black children regress.

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There is also much ignorant shrieking about the “bias” of IQ tests designed by white men, but it is an odd bias that permits Asians to outscore whites. As Prof. Levin explains, a real example of bias would be a test of hand-eye coordination that involved only the right hand. Lefties could prove the bias of such a test by demonstrating their ability with their left hands. “If the races are equally intelligent,” he writes, “it should be possible to find a task intuitively requiring intelligence that blacks perform as well as whites.” No such task has ever been found.

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Yes, I consider as interesting phenomena that person referred as "white supremacist" technically speaking makes an argument that in IQ tests Asians outperform Westeners.

This blindness leads to futile attempts to eliminate “achievement gaps” between the races and leads whites to accept the view that if blacks and Hispanics are less successful than whites, it is because of white “racism.”

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3) Ethnic groups, including whites, have right to preserve and be proud of their heritage

Black rejection of not only the Confederate but the American heritage is clear in the removal of the name of George Washington from a public school in New Orleans. On Oct. 27, 1997 the Orleans Parish School Board, with a 5-2 black majority, voted to change the name of George Washington Elementary to Dr. Charles Richard Drew Elementary (Drew was a black surgeon who made advances in preserving blood plasma); the school itself is 91 percent black. “Why should African-Americans want their kids to pay respect or pay homage to someone who enslaved their ancestors?” asked New Orleans “civil rights” leader Carl Galmon. “To African-Americans, George Washington has about as much meaning as David Duke.”

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4) There are differences in crime rates among ethnic groups and is rational stay away from crime hot spot

There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. Asians have the lowest rates, followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups.

In 2013, a black was six times more likely than a non­black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race.

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5) Some US school admission regulations like "holistic score" seems to be intended to discriminate against whites and they oppose it

Two things saved UT from “resegregation.” The university immediately invented a new, “holistic” way to evaluate applicants, which piously ignored race but gave extra points for growing up without a father, being poor, not speaking English at home, etc. It was a transparent attempt to smuggle race into admissions decisions, but it didn’t work very well; an annoying number of whites were poor and fatherless and therefore got the leg up UT wanted to reserve for non-whites.

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6) Already people who officially do not share views of white nationalists, take part in white flight in order to live in good neighbourhood (which somehow turns out to be mostly white), thus inadvertently support their point for ethnic separation

In the 1960s and 1970s, whites were generally fleeing blacks, but the great black migrations have largely come to an end, and whites have reestablished distance between the two races. In recent decades, it is massive, non-white immigration that most often drives whites from their neighborhoods, and continuing immigration only hardens the alien character of these places. No one believes that the arrival of yet more Haitians, Guatemalans, Mexicans, Jamaicans, or Vietnamese will somehow restore the former character of South Central Los Angeles or Miami and induce whites to move back.

The process works the other way. As their numbers increase, non-whites continue to expand into adjacent areas. Whites, many of whom fled their homes in the face of the first incursion, move away once again.

This, then, will be one of the certain effects of demographic change: More and more parts of the United States will become, for whites, essentially uninhabitable. It will be physically possible for whites to live with the Mexicans of Brownsville, Texas or the blacks of Camden, New Jersey but such places will be almost as alien and as uninviting as Oaxaca or Mombasa. They will actually be more uninviting. The people of Oaxaca and Mombasa like and admire white Americans, whereas those of Brownsville and Camden have a strong and sometimes violent dislike for whites.

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Dreaming about ethnostate seems acceptable (when it's Black Wakanada), being worried about being about demographically dominated by other ethnic group seems acceptable too (when applied to for example Tibet or Kashmir). Thus in their own eyes their position it seems as moderate, rational self-interest, that each ethnic group should be allowed to pursue its own aims and there is nothing wrong in voluntary self-segregation, even if it may lead to splitting of the US.

EDIT: I tried to find something of him that's considered as top inflammatory, hateful and would unquestionably justify all the infamy. Apparently this his video about race and intelligence got took down by Youtube as such, so one may watch "the worst of him" and make their own opinion.

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Note: not all white nationalist movements will have the same arguments and motivations. Because of their history, nationalists in every country will differ in their beliefs and arguments. I based my answer on French and European nationalists, but it should apply to other countries.

Some assumptions made by white nationalists are necessary to understand their arguments:

  1. "White culture" means "Judeo-Christian" and Judaism and Christianity are the source of the modern ethics and moral values.

  2. non-White people are somehow assimilated to foreigners, even if they are from a family that have been living in Europe for several generations, have never been to the country of origin of their family, does not speak its language, culture and traditions,...

There are a then few main arguments:

  1. Superiority of the white race. Based on obsolete science or religious beliefs, they consider that mankind can be divided in (clearly and naturally defined) races, and that white people are superior to the other "races". This was, among others, the ideology of Hitler's Nazis.

  2. Superiority of the "white culture". A modern variant of the previous one, and the dominating ideology of the European extreme right (for example). They reduce people to their culture of origin, and equate European culture to Judeo-Christian culture. They consider that not all cultures are equal, and some - the white one actually - are more moral than other ones. Policies to limit immigration is a way to protect white people from "barbarians".

  3. The "great replacement" (not sure of the terminology in English. I translated directly the French expression "le Grand Remplacement"). Immigrants from non-White countries (mostly, black people and Arabs) never fully integrates and assimilates. In particular, they don't adhere to the essentially European Human Rights. Because of a greater rate of birth, they would soon outnumber white people and replace them, changing the institutions to less progressive laws.

  4. Historical legacy. The country is historically and culturally white. Priority should be given to the native citizens.

  5. Reciprocity. Many countries (including rich and modern ones like Japan) give preferential treatments to their own citizens and restrict rights and possibilities for foreigners. Why would white people be nicer to foreigners?

  6. Impossible/Unrealistic/Undesirable charity. Most non-white people are coming from poor countries, and accepting them is a form of charity. The country cannot afford it as they are already many poor white people, and/or foreigners come here to take advantage of our society without contributing to it.

  7. Bad strategy. Accepting non-white people is not the right thing to do. We should help their country of origin and/or they should work harder to "fix" their own country instead of coming in ours.

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    This is not an answer. You are refuting the question i'm asking. Fix it up or delete it. Furthermore there are no sources, primary or otherwise. – easymoden00b Aug 31 '17 at 16:23
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    Why am I refuting your question? Most of these arguments were used by French extreme right candidate Marine Le Pen in last presidential elections. Nationalists in Belgium and Austria, for example, have similar arguments. What is missing from the question are quotes and sources. I will not delete the answer, except if it attracts a lot of downvotes. – Taladris Aug 31 '17 at 16:29
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    @easymoden00b these are the arguments used. You're asking us to paint them in the light of how a white nationalist would phrase them. That's going to be pure opinion. As such, I don't think you are actually asking this question sincerely. – user1530 Aug 31 '17 at 16:36
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    The question was specifically asking for sources. Unfortunately your answer does not mention any sources. Maybe what you say is found in statements by relevant white nationalists, but then you should quote those statements. – Philipp Aug 31 '17 at 16:58
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    "white culture" definitely does not mean "Judeo-Christian". It means the culture of the "white race". Antisemitism is an important element of white nationalism, and Jews are always specifically excluded. See for example the Charlottesville statement by Richard Spencer: "Jews are an ethno-religious people distinct from Europeans. [...] “Judeo-Christian values” might be a quaint political slogan, but it is a distortion of the historical and metaphysical reality". – tim Aug 31 '17 at 17:25
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Great question, but you may not get answers because any answer is a downvote magnet. Also, I've seen arguments that would indicate the way you defined it as a caricature - ie: white isn't a race, but is an ethnicity (I don't agree with this view either).

From many Twitter interactions involving Red Ice creations and others in what's called the Red Pill community and alt-right - all of which are considered politically incorrect, I've seen a few of the below views:

View: White Nationalism in the context of ethnicity. Main argument: White is an ethnicity and like the Japanese ethnicity has a monoculture, these people aim to create a culture that is a monoculuture based on what they view as this ethnicity. For instance, if marriage and protestantism is viewed as a part of a national identity, they would like to have a nation that prevents these premises of their culture from being overturned. An outside example of this is China's recent rulings against some entertainment being public as they see it as undermining their "socialistic values" (ie: homosexuality). Since the communist party in China has the power to control their culture, they can prevent depictions of homosexuality and enforce it. These people would like to have this type of culture. A monoculture has more authority to enforce some values. One proponent of this was featured on Red Ice a while back and if I recall.

View: White nationalism in the view that white people are smarter/better than everyone else. Main argument is from the superiority of white people. Vox Day is a big proponent of this if you've ever come across his blog or writing. His view is more of diversity + proximity = war, so his view is that one way or another white people will have their own nation in the long run due to the inevitable conflict of different groups being in the same proximity. For him, it's not enough that diverse people don't get along; he has stated numerous times that some cultures are superior to others - and whites are a superior culture in his view. In his view, even if whites and blacks are both a part of the same religion - like Christianity - he still thinks there will be conflict, though in my experience, people who are deeply religious (not casually religious) are more likely to connect regardless of other factors. He hasn't been able to address this observation, but I have seen quite a few people propose his ideas of white nationalism - "We're better than others so we need our own nation, and even if you don't give us one, we will have it."

View: White nationalism in the context of dominating and (or) kicking every other group out. Heartiste is one of the leaders of this argument. These people sound very similar, if not exactly identical, to Nazis. While the first group wants a nation for what they believe is an ethnicity, this group wants to take wherever they are and kick everyone else out. So if they live in Canada, they want everyone out of Canada, except the people who support their views.

What these groups do not all share in common that the other answer claims:

  • Superiority of the white race. Not all groups share this belief, though the latter two do.
  • Superiority of the "white culture". Not all groups share this belief. The first group believes that a monoculture is superior to a polyculture. Many of the first group highly respect the Japanese because the Japanese are a monoculture.
  • The "great replacement". Feature of a polyculture, disfavored by all groups.
  • Historical legacy. This is only true of the latter group I mention above this; the first two are fine with creating a new nation.
  • Reciprocity. Feature of a monoculture, favored by all groups.
  • Impossible/Unrealistic/Undesirable charity. Feature of a polyculture, disfavored by all groups.
  • Bad strategy. Feature of a polyculture (not so much bad strategy as mixed strategy), disfavored by all groups.

I'm only answering the question, not agreeing with any of these views.

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    The question was specifically asking for sources. Unfortunately your answer does not mention any sources besides "many Twitter interactions". Maybe what you say is found in statements by relevant white nationalists, but then you should quote those statements. – Philipp Aug 31 '17 at 17:00
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    because any answer is a downvote magnet. I downvoted this solely because this answer is entirely unsourced and for no other reason. – David Grinberg Aug 31 '17 at 17:04
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    Cites are nice to support a position. But don't intrinsic logic and common sense -as well as personal observation/experience- carry some probative weight. – TomO Aug 31 '17 at 18:13
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    @TomO No, they carry very little weight. My intrinsic logic and yours is different. Also the OP explicitly asked for citations. This post ignored that. – David Grinberg Aug 31 '17 at 18:21
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    @TomO I did not say mine is superior to yours. I do know enough about you to make a judgement in either direction. Its just different. As for the standard of citation, the OP is correct to assert this. We are looking for clear answers to clear questions because Stack Exchange is not a discussion forum. – David Grinberg Aug 31 '17 at 18:46
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Contra-argument [trigger warning for use of language in graphic below]:

Tim's answer does a pretty fine job of outlining traditional neo-NAZI, alt-Right American responses. But there is another group of people that promote a backwards sort of White supremacy in the US, and it comes from social justice warriors generally (the more racially motivated and identified groups of progressives that promote identity politics). The argument goes something like this: by promoting the ideas of patriarchal, systemic and structural racism as the de facto primary if not sole reason for minority groups inequality in the United States, and that America racism will never go away, minority groups will always be second class citizens, forever unequal.

For white progressives, white privilege amounts to an institutional superstructure which affirms the unjust superiority of whites. Indeed, if one group possesses a set of unearned privileges that others do not, then this group handles the reins of that society. In this regard, the core tenets of white privilege bear an eerie resemblance to the core tenets of white supremacy. That is, both white liberals on the far-left and white supremacists on the far-right believe in the superiority of whites. The only difference is that one group sees their superiority as a bad thing while the other does not. White privilege and white supremacy are two sides of the same coin.

Regardless, both interpretations are incorrect for similar reasons. When it comes to differences in group outcomes, the far-left and far-right conflate perception with reality. For neo-Nazis and alt-righters, their supposed superiority lies in their genetics. For those on the far-left, the unjust supremacy of whites is based on systemic discrimination. Both are sorely mistaken.

To give an example of this, look at this quote from Ta-Nehisi Coates, who I feel confident we can include as someone who promotes identity politics as described above. He explicitly ties being white to being a man, and being black as something lesser, and both tribes[his word] tied through hate: enter image description here

Whether you agree or not with this line of thought, or even if you do and think the effects are minimal, there are social costs associated with race-based focus. Andrew Sullivan has this to say:

Children, in other words, are being taught to think constantly about race, and to feel guilty if they are the wrong one. And, of course, if they resist, that merely proves the point. A boy who doesn’t think he is personally responsible for racism is merely reflecting “white fragility” which is a function of “white supremacy.” QED. No one seems to have thought through the implications of telling white boys that their core identity is their “whiteness,” or worried that indoctrinating kids into white identity might lead quite a few to, yes, become “white identitarians” of the far right.

There are additional social costs associated with telling minorities they are doomed to succeed in a racist country.

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  1. White nationalism transcends national borders. It is actually more inclusive than other nationalism. World War I from a white nationalist's view was a civil war and was not worth fighting.

  2. Where white influence is dominant, the people also fare better.

    • White nations championed in civil rights movements. Magna Carta, Bill of Rights, the end of cruel and unusual punishment were all initiated in white nations.

    • White nations contributed far the most in science and technology, which is the single most important factor in the rise of living standards world wide.

  3. Where white influence is absent, life is nasty and brutish.

  4. Where white influence is on the wane, barbarism is on the rise.

Conclusion: No matter for what reason people hate white nationalism, they still want to live in a white neighbourhood. The last thing they want to see is the disappearance of whites.

Regarding sources, google Jared Taylor will return all the sources you want. But I'd like to cite Liu Xiaobo, a 2010 Nobel Peace Prize winner, who probably never heard of Jared Taylor.

[It would take] 300 years of colonialism. In 100 years of colonialism, Hong Kong has changed to what we see today. With China being so big, of course it would require 300 years as a colony for it to be able to transform into how Hong Kong is today. I have my doubts as to whether 300 years would be enough.

-- Liu Xiaobo,

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    Do you have sources? Or is this your opinion? – user1530 Aug 31 '17 at 16:48
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    Pretty low on the sources. 1 is sourced. But I don't think Bertrand Russell is a white nationalist. – easymoden00b Aug 31 '17 at 16:51
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    @OnlyAndSurely this is the first answer that's actually close to what white nationalists believe. Good job :) +1 – Charlie Aug 31 '17 at 16:55
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    Defo add some sources though – Charlie Aug 31 '17 at 16:56
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    -1. There is a lot of speculation here and a very small amount of detail. This is a poor answer. – David Grinberg Aug 31 '17 at 17:02

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