What is the Alt-Left and how different are they from the Far-Left or Ultra-Left? Are they similar to the Alt-Right in any way?

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    The alt-right isn't a single thing either. It's a conglomerate that has no real cohesion other than opposition to democrats and will pull itself apart. – Joshua Oct 9 '17 at 3:22
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    In which country? It heavily depends on where you are what each political party is viewed at and wether they even exist or not. – Polygnome Oct 9 '17 at 8:56
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    We need a whole lot more context here. What references of the 'alt-left' are you referring to? In the US, the 'alt-right' is a well established concept with plenty of sources of info. The 'alt-left' isn't. We need specifics. Are you talking about the US? Which reports of the 'alt-left' in particular? – user1530 Oct 9 '17 at 19:56
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    I have never heard of Alt-Left (except in computer courses maybe) until today. I wish the question would cite some prominent uses of the term because asking about the meaning. On the other hand a quick wikipedia search already gives a definition: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right#Alt-left. A bit more initial research would be nice. – Trilarion Oct 10 '17 at 9:30

The alt-left is not really a thing unless you live in Switzerland, where it is a political party.

In the US, it's a term that got cooked up by the alt-right to describe their fantasized progressive equivalent. The problem, of course, is that there is no such thing.

There's the oddball violent antifa, but where the aim of such would-be alt-left might be fighting intolerance or a better (re-)distribution of wealth, that of the alt-right is white supremacy. Personally, I find it hard to accept that the two are equivalent. The alt-left is leaning far left, whereas the alt-right stands for everything the US fought against during the Civil War and World War II.

The expression's history has a few interesting tidbits. Long story short, it seems to have appeared in Reddit alt-right groups. There is about zero reference to it in Google (except for the keyboard shortcut) prior to the last US presidential campaign. It got some uptake after a Vanity Fair article denouncing it as a problem. (There also were a few calls to embrace the term after the article.) It got much more serious uptake after Trump used the term in his "on both sides" commentary after Charlottesville.

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    Groups like antifa are exactly the types I've heard this moniker used to describe in the U.S. – reirab Oct 8 '17 at 21:13
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    Antifa isn't just left though - it's a reactionary group that opposes fascist marches. Sometimes violent, often infiltrated by black bloc anarchists and other "I Wanna Smash Things Up" types, I've known centrists and anti-racists who don't much care for left V right politics turn up at antifascist counter-protests. The alt-right has a more cohesive political outlook - that's why they're called the Alt-Right, not something else. – Miller86 Oct 10 '17 at 10:51
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    @Miller86 "Reactionary" as used in politics is usually used to refer to conservatives. I get what you're saying though, Antifa is a response to fascists rather than a "standalone" political movement. – Andrew Piliser Oct 10 '17 at 17:08
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    -1 for the unnecessary and baseless derision of Anti-Fascist Action as "oddball" - which almost alludes to them being the "alt left" somehow. Please consider removing that part of your answer. – einpoklum Oct 10 '17 at 22:31
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    This answer does not appear very objective to me. First of all, "better (re-)distribution of wealth" should at least have quotes around "better", which is a normative issue. Then there's the odd "The alt-left is leaning far left, whereas the alt-right stands for everything [...]". Many would define the alt-right to be far right, on the one-dimensional internationalism/ultranationalism axis. If you then concede that the "alt-left is leaning far left", they are symmetric on that dimension. – FooBar Oct 11 '17 at 11:42

There is no "alt-left". It's a term made up by the right to far-right in an attempt to create a false equivalence between white supremacists and those opposing white supremacism:

It's a "made-up term" used by people on the right to "suggest there is a similar movement on the left," [Oren Segal, director of the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism,] said.

But there's no equivalent with the anti-Semitic and bigoted groups that call themselves "alt-right", he said.

[George Hawley: ] "There is no such movement as the alt-left. Obviously, there are left-wing extremists but there is no congruence between the far-left and the alt-right."CNN: What's the 'alt-left'? Experts say it's a 'made-up term'

Researchers who study extremist groups in the United States say there is no such thing as the “alt-left.” Mark Pitcavage, an analyst at the Anti-Defamation League, said the word had been made up to create a false equivalence between the far right and “anything vaguely left-seeming that they didn’t like.”New York Times: Alt-Right, Alt-Left, Antifa: A Glossary of Extremist Language

Ultimately, the intent seems to be to frame alt-left as the opposite of alt-right and create a false equivalence between groups on the far ends of the right and left. But here's the thing: No left-wing group has ever called itself the alt-left. And the groups smeared by the alt-left label don't include anything like the heinousness of overt white supremacism that has increasingly defined the alt-right.

It's a blanket term some right-wing media commentators and white nationalists have taken to throwing over groups they disagree with Wired: There Is No 'Alt-Left,' No Matter What Trump Says

"Alt-right" on the other hand is a self-applied term that was made up by white supremacists themselves for propaganda purposes.

There are of course far-left ideologies such as various sorts of communism, anarchism, etc. They are not comparable to the so called "alt-right" though; while some may contain racism or antisemitism, it is not central to any left-wing ideology, while they are central elements of the so called "alt-right". There are of course a lot of other differences, but that seems to be outside of the scope of this question.

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    Politically speaking, I completely agree with this answer; however etymologically speaking, all terms are made up by somebody. If you conclude from this that there is no Alt-Left, you could also conclude that there have never been any Nazis. – leftaroundabout Oct 8 '17 at 22:00
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    @leftaroundabout The person or people who coin a term matters. The Nazis and the Alt-Right named themselves (proudly, I might add). Therefore those groups affirmatively exist. I could say "the Alien Mafia caused the most recent thunderstorm in my area" but that doesn't mean there is anything out there that actually is the "Alien Mafia". If someone turns around and says "We are the Alien Mafia" then they are validating my invention of that term, or I heard it and I'm blaming a real group for the weather. – Todd Wilcox Oct 8 '17 at 22:47
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    There is no "alt-left" Just because a term is an exonym (alt-left) it doesn't mean it's any less valid than an endonym (alt-right). – rath Oct 11 '17 at 10:53
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    @rath True. The reason that it is invalid is that those who invented the term did not do so in order to describe an existing, well-defined phenomenon on the left, but to draw a false equivalency. I'm not sure why people keep stopping at "made up term" and ignore the rest regarding why the term was made up, and that - according to experts on the topic - it does not describe any actually existing phenomenon. (btw, that is also why "alt-right" is mostly an invalid term; it's just a euphemism for white supremacy, not describing anything new) – tim Oct 11 '17 at 11:24
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    A word being made up doesn't inherently make it less valid, nor is it true that an exonym is necessarily less valid than an endonym. But that's not the argument here; the argument is that we should specifically be skeptical of political terminology invented by Nazis, because Nazi political philosophy is barbarous and irrationalist. In general, all words are invented, but that doesn't mean all words are equally valid labels. That is, the word "alt-right" is imputed upon a real group, whereas the word "alt-left" is imputed on a Nazi bogeyman, a rhetorical Reichstag fire. @leftaroundabout – ubadub Oct 13 '17 at 9:13

The alt-left, regressive left, or illiberal left are terms used to describe a subset of people on the left. The three terms may not be exactly the same, however they are close enough that I felt it makes sense to talk about them together. These terms seem to collectively amount to a certain type of criticism of some aspects of the left. First, it should be noted that the expressions are not used as self-identification, but rather used by opponents of their beliefs/actions.

The people in question are often committed to some degree of the blank slate or egalitarianism. From this it follows that all/most differences between human groups are caused by differential treatment of those groups, or by differential media portrayals of group members [*]. Particular areas of controversy are: sex differences, ethnic differences, class differences, cultural or religious differences. The main offenders are generally the patriarchy, white-supremacist society, the capitalist society, etc.

The terms are generally not used just because of their beliefs, but for their actions against people that challenge those beliefs.

When Lawrence Summers or James Damore suggested that there may be biological differences between the sexes in terms of e.g. interests that lead to different statistical representations of the sexes in various fields, then that goes against the beliefs of the "alt-left". But it's not just that they disagreed: they had to be fired, and it doesn't matter if they presented evidence. There was no reason to discuss the evidence, it was simply sexist stereotypes. Despite several experts generally agreed, and it is not something suggested without evidence. Instead of reasonably discussing the evidence, they are labelled (neuro-)sexists.

Another area of controversy is on the subject of Islam. Instead of reasonably discussing the topic with critics of Islam, they label them Islamophobes and/or racists. This is why Maajid Nawaz -- a practicing moderate muslim himself -- coined the term "regressive left". He believes that, while there are right-wing groups who are too eager to stereotype Islam/muslims, there are also many left-wing people who are too reluctant to criticize Islam. This is a sentiment shared by some other muslims and ex-muslims.

It should be noted that just because there are people who are too quick to call someone sexist, islamophobic, or whatever, that does not mean that the terms "sexist" or "islamophobe" are always misused.

These are just a few examples, I could easily give more areas in which such controversy have arisen. Generally, the "alt-left" view their opponents as so evil (sexist, racist, islamophobic, etc) that they don't even deserve to have a rational conversation about the topic at hand. So it is not just disagreement, but the desire to shut them down. Thus we see trends of disinvitations of university campus speakers, and in the most extreme cases riots and violence (see e.g. Antifa).

In conclusion, "alt-left" is one of several terms used to describe a certain faction on the political left. Certain beliefs are typical of the "alt-left", however it is not just their beliefs, but rather their desire to shut down people who disagree them with them, or their inability to honestly discuss an issue, which -- at least according to some people -- justify the name.

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    +1, The bolded part of your answer is the basic point I was (badly) trying to get across – Nick Cardoso Oct 9 '17 at 13:56
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    You know, I think this is the only answer here that actually even tries to answer the question about what it's supposed to refer to by the people who use it. – jpmc26 Oct 10 '17 at 1:50
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    The answer provides an example for a somewhat radical or even violent left subgroup, but that does not address the question if there in fact is an alt-left. Of course I can label any subgroup as I like, but that does not mean that the label is accepted generally or that it has a deeper meaning. In that way, the label is not more than "a left subgroup that many on the right side dislike and that has some violent extremists". It does not accurately describe a movement, nor would people with this mindset see themselves als "alternative". And it surely is not a leftist version of the alt-right. – Thern Oct 10 '17 at 9:31
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    @Nebr The purpose of my answer was explicitly to try and give the context for what people mean when using such terms. I also explicitly state that people do not self-identify as "alt-left". I also didn't say that it was a leftist version of the alt-right, so I don't understand that criticism. It's my view that you cannot understand the term "alt-left" without understanding other similar terms as I've addressed in my answer. On "a left subgroup that many on the right side dislike", much of the criticisms given in my answer are actually from people on the left or center. – Eff Oct 10 '17 at 11:17
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    @Nebr Much of your criticisms can be used almost exactly equivalently about other things, even the term "alt-right". While there are people who identify as alt-right, there are also many who don't who are still called it due to the same subjective feeling of "wrongness". The same could be said for other terms such as "racist", "white supremacist", "sexist", etc, terms which relatively very few people identify with yet are called due to some subjective feeling of wrongness. I tried in my answer, as best as I could, to describe what sentiment people try to get across with the term(s). – Eff Oct 10 '17 at 16:07

Many people on both sides falsely label their opponents.

The fact is there are bad on both sides and the simplest answer to the stated question is

Alt-left is the name given by conservative groups to the most extreme members of the left

Just as alt-right is used to describe the extreme elements of the right. (including, as state in other answers, by those extreme-right wingers themselves). So there is no real difference in labeling them far-left or alt-left.

Most commonly it is used as a term to denounce groups and individuals committing violent crimes (notably antifa and various individuals on university campuses) and those who use fraud to progress their agenda (fake hate crimes) and who push for false equality and affirmative action (I'm more equal than you)

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    Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. – Sam I am Oct 10 '17 at 3:21

Same thing that the alt-right is - a pejorative used to label people one strongly disagrees with. Accompanied by cherry picked outlier incidents of a few fringe individuals, to further denigrate an entire group.

If people would put as much effort into solving problems as they do cooking up excuses to hate other people, we'd be in much better shape.

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    This answer is speculative and agrumentative as opposed to explanatory and essentially uncorrelated with the actual question. Consider supporting the answer with references. – Dynamic Stardust Oct 11 '17 at 17:11
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    @DynamicStardust this is not uncorrelated to the question, although the answer is hardly complete. Specifically the notions that the term 'alt-left' is primarily a pejorative and has a subjective component would be key components of a definition, if they apply. References would be nice, though. – Scott May 11 '18 at 15:44

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