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Suppose the current president were to resign (or die while in office).

Per section 1 of the 25th amendment, the Vice President becomes the President (right away, do not pass go, do not collect $200).

Next, the new President (currently, Mike Pence) nominates his Vice President as Jeb Bush (just throwing a name out there), per section 2 of the 25th amendment.

Also per section 2 of the 25th amendment, the nominated Vice President must now be confirmed "by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress" before taking office.

If the new President Pence were to then die or resign before the nominated Vice President is confirmed, would the next in the line of succession become President (ie Speaker of the House of Representatives)?

Sub-question: when the office of the President becomes vacant, does the line of succession start over from the top, or pick up where it left off? I assume it has been reset and thus starts from the top of the line, but does this potentially mean that someone in the line of succession could be populated before the Vice President is confirmed? Like if the new President was the Speaker of the House of Representatives or President Pro Temp of Senate, could a new Speaker of the House of Representatives be selected before the new President's VP nomination has been confirmed?

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    A closely related example: Gerald Ford was appointed Vice President upon the resignation of Spiro Agnew. He then became President upon the resignation of Richard Nixon. Prior to this he was the House Minority leader and had no place in the order of succession. – Thomas Oct 13 '18 at 0:26
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The Constitution provides for a direct successor to the President, the Vice-President. This is clear from the language first section of the 25th amendment:

In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Additionally, the second section states:

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

This makes it possible for a Vice President to take office between elections in the case of vacancy. This language also makes it clear that this nominee takes office when and if both houses of Congress confirm the nominee.

Furthermore the Constitution empowers Congress to do the following:

Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

This clause is slightly modified by the 25th amendment in relation to how a disability is declared by the President and the acting of President by the Vice-President. However, generally, the language of the 25th amendment does not affect the relationship between the Presidency and those past the Vice-President in the line of succession.

According to the law the Speaker of the House and President Pro Tempore of the Senate are next in line to succeed the President, respectfully. However, the Constitution does not empower them to become the President. The Constitution only empowers them to become the “acting President”. Thus the Speaker and the President Pro Tempore only act as President. Thus in the vacancy of both President or Vice President, the Speaker would act as President. The Acting President would be entitled to exercise all duties of the President including nominating a Vice-President.

According to a CRS report on Presidential Succession, the Constitution specifically provides for the President or Vice President to “bump” the Speaker or any acting President out of office. Thus upon confirmation of the Vice Presidential appointee, the Vice President bumps the Speaker out and becomes President. This issue is pretty clear in the Constitution.

There is no requirement for Congress to confirm the Presidential nominee and there is a long history of the President being able to withdraw a nominee. However, this acting President need not withdraw the Vice Presidential nominee and upon confirmation that person would become Vice President and then President.

Politically, the Speaker would probably not appoint anyone because it would mean they were out of a job, unless there was some kind of agreement or similar. Maybe Congress would be okay with the acting President appointing themselves for stability and filling the line of succession, but self appointments and nominations are generally looked down upon. There is no history on the Presidency, but a similar situation is when there is a Senate vacancy, the Governor of the State can typically appoint a replacement. The Governors who appoint themselves typically do not win re-election to the Senate.

  • Politically, the Speaker would probably not appoint anyone because it would mean they were out of a job The Gerald Ford example goes against this. In fact, the Speaker "missed out" on the presidency in favor of his direct political rival, the minority leader. – Thomas Oct 13 '18 at 0:29
  • Hey @Thomas I was a little vague on what I meant there: the speaker in this case is the acting President (no longer the speaker as they would have to effectively resign to become acting President). – Viktor Oct 13 '18 at 0:31
  • I believe when I asked this, I was partly motivated by a scene in some TV show I was watching. Basically there is some kind of pandemic that keeps killing the current president, and this is expressed by a news montage where they say "president X passed away", "president Y passed away", "president Z passed away" where X, Y, and Z are the current members of the president's cabinet, in succession order. It's a cute bit and makes its point, but I thought "it wouldn't really work that way, because the appointed president would nominate a vice president". But then I wondered – Anthony Aug 16 at 16:19
  • …but then I wondered well what if the appointed president died died before his vp candidate or any cabinet appointments were confirmed. Surely it wouldn't mean the next person in line from the previous president's death is now the first in line for this president's death. But it does make for an interesting dilemma, as a quick series of presidential deaths doesn't seem to be accounted for. – Anthony Aug 16 at 16:21
  • Cabinet officials continue to be in office until fired by the current President/acting President. The current person acting as President can nominate a Vice President, but they are not required to so. If they do nominate a Vice President, then the nominee only becomes Vice President upon confirmation. So if the current acting President dies the next person in line becomes acting President. Assuming the new acting President does not withdraw the Vice Presidential nominee, the nominee becomes Vice President once confirmed and then President. – Viktor Aug 17 at 15:58

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