The recently release Trump-Zelenskyy phone call transcript has the following snippet (emphasis mine):

The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has.

What is Trump referring to here? Does Crowdstrike refer to the cybersecurity company?

  • Probably. The company was somehow involved in the DNC email leak, according to Wikipedia. I didn't read the details. But skimming it, it seems there were other possible issues in which Crowdstrike was involved in Ukraine. – Fizz Sep 25 '19 at 15:09
  • You need header and body question alignment – K Dog Sep 25 '19 at 15:56
  • Vox explainer: vox.com/2019/9/25/20883373/… TLDR. – Fizz Sep 26 '19 at 14:49

Adam Raymond of New York Magazine explains the CrowdStrike connection in an analysis piece here: Questions About the Trump-Zelensky Memo, Answered

CrowdStrike is a U.S.-based cybersecurity firm that the Democratic National Committee hired to look into hacks on its servers. The firm determined that the attack originated from Russian government hackers. In his comments to Zelensky, Trump appeared to be referencing a conspiracy theory that accuses CrowdStrike of participating in a cover-up by helping the DNC hide that the hack was an inside job. According to CyberScoop, this is a common right-wing conspiracy and easy to debunk.

Essentially, it seems that Trump believes a conspiracy theory that the 2016 hack of the DNC email servers was an inside job and that CrowdStrike helped to cover it up and then hid the incriminating servers in Ukraine, since the co-founder of CrowdStrike is Ukrainian.

The linked article on cyberscoop explains this theory in more detail: Why did President Trump mention CrowdStrike to the Ukrainian president?

It appears that Trump asked Zelenskiy to search for a server linked with the 2016 breach of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) — an incident which California-based CrowdStrike helped to investigate.


Trump has long alleged a DNC server is “missing,” a theory which appears to be based on a conspiracy theory peddled in right-wing circles that CrowdStrike was involved in a cover-up of the DNC breach.

But in reality, there are no physical machines linked with the DNC breach that are actually missing. Instead of one server, there were actually more than 140 servers decommissioned by the DNC in June 2016, many of them cloud-based.


The theory was amplified when Trump adviser Roger Stone’s legal team alleged the 2016 hack was an inside job and that CrowdStrike tampered with the evidence to pin the activity on Russian hackers.


This is not the first time Trump has brought up the missing server conspiracy theory — he raised similar questions during his press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin in July last year.

“You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server,” Trump said last year. “Why didn’t they take the server? Where is the server, I want to know, and what is the server saying?”


I don't think there is any connection between Ukraine and Crowdstrike. It appears Trump is just vocalizing a stream of consciousness. What Trump is doing is asking the Ukrainians to assist in intelligence on who is responsible for the hack of the DNC server (here he may be barking up the wrong tree, but doesn't know it, see conspiracy theory mentioned below). Then he starts free associating and fighting old battles.

For some reason, Trump believed somewhere within Ukraine was a copy of Hillary Clinton's hacked email server. The Washington Post labels this a conspiracy theory. It certainly doesn't make a ton of sense.

Here he just pivots. Ukraine>>hacked server>>server investigation>>Crowdstrike

Crowdstrike bizarrely was given the job by the DNC to verify the source of the DNC hack, rather than the FBI. However, it should be noted that only Crowdstrike, and only them, has concluded that Russia was behind the DNC hack. To the extent this is a "conspiracy theory" one has to take as an article of faith Crowdstrike's findings, a group that has close ties to the Democrats.

Trump was certainly aware that Crowdstrike was given the job.

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    This does not answer my question. What does Crowdstrike have to do with Ukraine? Also I would appreciate answers with a more impartial tone. Let me decide what is or is not bizzare :). – David says Reinstate Monica Sep 25 '19 at 15:25
  • @DavidGrinberg see amended. – K Dog Sep 25 '19 at 15:27
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    Please edit in the part about the alleged connection with Ukraine. I can't read it because of annoying pop-ups, but it seems to be in your second link. – JJ for Transparency and Monica Sep 25 '19 at 15:37
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    @Jjj there really is no connection, Trump went from conspiracy theory, to server, to Crowdstrike. He's just rambling. – K Dog Sep 25 '19 at 15:47
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    @KDog That sounds like an actual answer. Better to put that up front, rather than just repeating said rambling – divibisan Sep 25 '19 at 15:48

read these 2 articles



I surmise these allegations look like this: Ukraine hates Russia. Hillary Hates Trump. Obama Admin loved prior admin of Ukraine. Ukraine based Billionaire Loves Hillary and Hates Russia. Google leader loves Hillary and helps the DNC. the Billionare and Google guy invest in Crowdstrike. Crowdstrike has only one client, the DNC. Crowdstrike feeds what is suggested to be fake news to The Guardian who runs with it. The topics:(A) Russia hacked the DNC; (B)Russia haked the Ukranian military resulting in heavy losses in their Howitzers; Turmp was involved with Collusion with the Russions to influence the elections.

The result is smearing the Russians, and Trump. Trump seems to think its more evidence of the democrats trying to take him out.

It will take a while to sort out what the actual facts are.

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