5

Jordan Peterson, in his Oxford Union address, said,

It is obvious that there is a contradiction between Marxism and post-modernism.

In what sense is there a contradiction?

  • 6
    Postmodernism is inherently incompatible with everything, including itself. – M i ech Oct 7 '19 at 10:46
  • 10
    Peterson has a habit of calling people whom he disagrees with "post modernists". He seems to use the word based off his own definition, similar to how he does with "god". – Inertial Ignorance Oct 7 '19 at 10:53
  • 9
    Why would Marxism even be linked to Postmodernism in the first place? There's no connection whatsoever. That's like saying there's contradiction between baobab tree and snowshoe hare. In fact, it's a comparison that only postmodernist would claim has any merit... – M i ech Oct 7 '19 at 10:56
  • @Miech - the connection is their opposition to capitalism and individualism. Notice that the term "right" doesn't mean anything except "not left." Marxism failed. Post-Modernism (an umbrella term if ever there was one) became the new way to fight capitalism. The King is Dead. Long Live the King. – Mayo Oct 7 '19 at 14:36
  • 7
    Peterson should not be considered as any kind of authority on Marxism. In his debate with Zizek he admits that he hasn't read any Marx except the Communist Manifesto when he was 18. – J Doe Oct 7 '19 at 23:29
11

I don't know what Peterson means by this, but according to Wikipedia's definition of postmodernism:

While encompassing a wide variety of approaches and disciplines, postmodernism is generally defined by an attitude of skepticism, irony, or rejection of the grand narratives and ideologies of modernism, often calling into question various assumptions of Enlightenment rationality. Consequently, common targets of postmodern critique include universalist notions of objective reality, morality, truth, human nature, reason, science, language, and social progress.

If you criticize objective reality or morality generally, it's not hard to see how that can also encompass criticism of Marxist notions like class struggle etc.

For example, Foucault (which Wikipedia gives a as prime example of a postmodernist)

never adopted an orthodox Marxist viewpoint, refuting core Marxist tenets such as class struggle.

Likewise Jean-Fran├žois Lyotard

distanced himself from Marxism because he felt that Marxism had a rigid structuralist approach and they were imposing 'systematization of desires' through strong emphasis on industrial production as the ground culture.

| improve this answer | |
  • 2
    I think it's more on social progress and theories of history that they diverge – K Dog Oct 6 '19 at 18:37

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .