The US Congress is trying to enact the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019. Why hasn't Canada tried too? Canada has many Hongkongers. Or are there more CCP Chinese than Hongkongers in Canada?

  • Perhaps Canadians are repulsed by people who willfully destroy public infrastructure and set human beings on fire over verbal disagreements. – klojj Nov 16 '19 at 7:54

I suspect it has something to do with the level of pressure China can put on Canada, compared to how much Canada can fight back against that coercion.

As a result of the arrest of the Huawei founder's daughter - a much less direct challenge than to support HK protesters - we have had severe trade disruptions, 2 citizens, one of which an ex-diplomat, jailed on trumped up charges and another Canadian, a drug dealer, has had his sentence bumped up to the death penalty.

For our pains in acting on a US extradition request, we had President Trump shortly afterwards Twitter that the whole thing "could be fixed with a deal".

I suspect that, at this point, only a coordinated and concerted effort by Western countries to diplomatically punish China for its suppression of HK citizen rights would have much effect. And this is the kind of situation where recent US unilateralism and unpredictability makes that level of coordination less likely than usual.

So Canada's sitting this one out out of caution/timidity, yes. But I honestly doubt too many people are sympathetic to the CCP, even among more recent immigrants.

  • Britain finds itself in much the same position. Only last night the Chinese put out accusations of British "interference" and warning that if such continue Britain could get "burned". Not sure what that means, but we do have 300,000 UK citizens currently living in Hong Kong - some of whom have been there years and call the place "home". – WS2 Nov 16 '19 at 9:04
  • @WS2 yes, we are living in interesting times again. I fear that Xi is so caught up in his rhetoric that he doesn't have the flexibility to adapt. China should, naturally, raise to ascendency over time. They have the population, albeit aging, the financial, intellectual and industrial muscle. They - as someone recently said - are much more of a potential threat than the USSR ever was, but they also come without much of the baggage of the USSR. The world could "do business with them". The one risk is uniting the world against them, something HK and the Uighur is a very good stab at doing. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Nov 16 '19 at 18:11
  • The Chinese ambassador to the UK, speaking on BBC TV last night was quite forthright in his complaints about British "interference", though he didn't make himself terribly clear as to what form the interference had taken. Notwithstanding his quite angry-looking façade, he did at one point appear to congratulate Britain for the manner in which the police deal with demonstrators. This could be a big moment in Chinese history, coinciding with "big moments" in Britain (Brexit), USA (impeachment?) etc. How many big moments can the wold handle simultaneously. – WS2 Nov 16 '19 at 18:37

Why hasn't Canada tried too?

Your question should be about why the United States is doing it. Although the two countries share similar values, Canada doesn't have a strong government unlike Trump's administration. In fact, Canada is well known as being "weak" and "dishonest" (https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/06/09/trump-justin-trudeau-g7-communique-tweet-nr.cnn).

Evidence? Apart from the US which Trump is leading, what other country is backing up democracy? The UK? No they are not doing it. Japan? No they are not doing it. India? No they are not doing it. It takes only Donald Trump to enforce modern democracy.

Donald Trump is backing the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act because he believes the American policy is consistent to the stability of Hong Kong.

"The president has also said that he wants to make sure that China treats the individuals there humanely," added Pompeo. "Those are the things that are at the center of American policy with respect to Hong Kong."

from https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/us-renews-call-humane-solution-hong-kong

Mike Pompeo has promised Donald Trump will be taking a harder line on China. (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3038015/us-secretary-state-signals-donald-trump-taking-harder-line). Who else other than Trump will be taking a fight against the Chinese?

Canada is not doing bad, but there is only one Donald Trump. Canada would be doing the exactly the same thing if Trump was the Prime Minister of Canada.

Or are there more CCP Chinese than Hongkongers in Canada?

Irrelevant. As long as Trump is leading the country, the US will always enforce democracy.

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    >Canada is well known as being "weak" and "dishonest" That's a pretty pathetic and alt-fact statement. Canada is 30M people, not 300M, so sorry. Our soldiers died with yours in Afghanistan. They served fighting against ISIS, on the ground. Why don't you ask the Kurds how they feel about TheRealDonaldTrump? In fact, why don't you ask some of your own military who were in Syria - whom I thank for their service - how they feel about their CiC? The one thing I'll grant you is that our defense spending, around 1.2% IIRC, falls short. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Nov 16 '19 at 18:03
  • Other than the US, no one else will fight with china. China has a trade surplus with everyone, but the biggest payer is the US. Also, China needs US Dollars to buy/sell any goods. So, they might think before attacking the US. with other countries, there isn't a chance. No one will oppose. China had been funding the UK's deficits in some form. It could be stopped immediately. I think, Thatcher made some promise that after some period, they will hand over HK to China, so they waited patiently till now and they are taking it now. – user29025 Nov 20 '19 at 21:21
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    @kris2025 We already handed Hong Kong back to China, in 1997. China gave Hong Kong special privileges and Hong Kong are now concerned about those privileges being revoked. – F1Krazy Nov 22 '19 at 10:24
  • I presumed to have independent rights differing from china meant a different nation. Maybe, i need to concentrate more while reading. Thanks for correcting. – user29025 Nov 22 '19 at 10:43

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