This EuroNews article tells us about the Berlin freezing of rent prices:

Berlin is freezing the rents of 1.5 million apartments for the next five years starting this Sunday in a controversial move to control the exploding costs that have forced many to move outside Germany's capital city.

This seems to be a rather strange decision in a free market. While the article does not specify the underlying cause of the rising prices, I expect to be related to:

  • more and more high-income people come to work in Berlin
  • new residential building are too few compared to the number of persons who want to live in Berlin

Clearly capping the rent prices does not seem to tackle the causes above and I am wondering what the authorities hope to achieve with this.

Question: Why did Berlin freeze the rent prices as opposed to letting the market set the price?

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    The article you cite clearly states 'freezing the rents .. to control the exploding costs' so the reason is very clearly stated. Of course you can question whether this is a good way to do this but the question 'why did they do it?' is very obviously answered in the sentence you quoted. If that is not what you meant than please clarify your question. – quarague Feb 26 '20 at 10:35
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    Lots of comments deleted. Please remember that the goal of comments should be to improve the question, not to discuss its subject matter. Please read the help article about the commenting privilege before you engage in comment debates. – Philipp Feb 27 '20 at 9:26
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    For comparison to another region undergoing a similar episode see the San Francisco Bay Area, in particular San Jose. As of my google search just now, they do not seem to have implemented full rent freezes, but the state government has implemented some rent controls – Izzy Feb 27 '20 at 14:24
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    Related: economics.stackexchange.com/questions/34214/… – Fizz Feb 28 '20 at 11:59
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    Related: economics.stackexchange.com/q/34249/332 – gerrit Mar 2 '20 at 18:21

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The unopportunistic and unattractive truth (I'm not afraid of saying it) is that Berlin is a red-red-green governed city and rents are one of their most important lighthouse projects. Also, the market does not, and cannot work because the market is actively prevented from working.

The market is driven by offer and demand. Demand has been going up, so consequently, either prices go up, or offer has to go up in sync with demand.
Offer, however, depends on availability, and availability is being actively sabotaged, both directly and indirectly (by the state government as well as the same city senate that complains about too few apartments being available, and too expensive).

Like in every good lie, there is a small grain of truth in here. Rents in Berlin did explode. However, they exploded from virtually nothing to well below average, which is about half of what you pay in some other places.

You get a smallish apartment for around 10€ per square meter in Berlin, and it's around 11-12€ for a mid-sized or larger one (feel free to consult e.g. immowelt which has detailled comparison charts for virtually every city).

For the smallish kind of apartment, you'd pay 12€ in Cologne and 20€ in Munich, for the mid-sized (and larger) it would be around 11€ and 18€, respectively. For Frankfurt, figures are around 14-15€, for Stuttgart around 13€.

Sure enough... you can get an apartment in a mid-sized non-spectacular city (say, Kassel, no offense intended) for 1-2€ cheaper than in Berlin, but you can hardly compare some moderately unimportant city in the middle of nowhere with living "Downtown Capital City, the most exquisit place to be". Which, as it happens, is a city roughly 12 times as large, too. I mean, seriously. These are just not the same things, you cannot compare them.

Thus, from a purely objective and non-ideologic point of view, there is actually nothing to complain about. Living in Berlin costs half as much as living in Munich. Whining about a non-issue, and being served by red-red-green in a no-effect, but very visible manner.

For red-red-green, it is political gold to prevent the evil class fiend from stealing from the poor, and capping rents is much easier to do than to actually do something about the general problem of housing being behind demand. It doesn't even matter that it makes the situation worse instead of better as there is no big incentive for house owners to invest in modernization, or for ground owners to build (if they get a permission at all!). It simply isn't worth it.
Of course the city could build affordable housing, but oh my, that would be a lot of work, and it's not nearly as effective politically than to point a finger at the class fiend.

This is not limited to Berlin, but Berlin in particular has been giving out significantly fewer permissions to build than to cover the need during the last years (with fewer every year). Which they do away with pointing at overhang and the fact that the rent cap wouldn't apply to the new apartments.

The regulations for building new houses get crazier and crazier (which means more cost-intensive) so with the rent cap in place it is almost no longer profitable to build at all -- if you get a building permit at all. The best thing that a ground owner can presently do is... do nothing. Just wait and see how prices go up.

Given the situation that is explicitly created by the government on every level (ECB negative interest, Bund, Länder, Städte, alike) it will be "fun" to see what becomes of it. Surely, the situation will not improve any time soon.

The subvention of compensation for PV is going to be cancelled this year unless Altmaier gets his stuff together before the 52GW ceiling is hit (unlikely...), which is a truly smart thing to do when you are actually shouting "Energiewende" all over, and the planned EnEV2021 which is yet crazier than the present one will make building affordable apartments for rent even less attractive than it is already. So if you will be looking for an apartment in 2022-2025, good luck.

Be that as it may, in Berlin, people currently don't have much to complain about compared to other places.

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    This problem is not unique to Berlin - every Western city keeps complaining about unaffordable rents while failing to abolish restrictions on new construction that would've actually solved the problem once and for all – JonathanReez Feb 26 '20 at 19:47
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    I'm not sure this clearly addresses the question as asked. This is less an answer to "Why did Berlin do this?", and more an answer to "Was it a good idea for Berlin to do this?" And on a side note, any Americans reading this will have no idea what "red-red-green" means. – MJ713 Feb 27 '20 at 2:59
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    Seriously, what's red-red-green? – zibadawa timmy Feb 27 '20 at 6:21
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    "from a purely objective and non-ideologic point of view" [citation needed] – Simon Richter Feb 27 '20 at 11:06
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    It also doesn't help that the largest landlords are investment companies that have promised their investors 20%+ interest and have not built a single house in the last ten years -- there is simply no trust in the market regulating things, as it has already failed to do so. – Simon Richter Feb 27 '20 at 18:56

The market was somewhat more free before the rent freeze (it was not completely free, see antipattern's excellent answer), and this had effects that some Berliners considered undesirable. The article describes what some of those effects were:

...in recent years, rents have skyrocketed...pushing middle-class families from Berlin's central residential neighbourhoods like Mitte or Prenzlauer Berg to the outskirts. Even traditionally working-class and immigrant neighbourhoods like Neukoelln or Kreuzberg have become so gentrified that long-time tenants can no longer afford the rising rents.

In addition there is an overall housing shortage in Berlin, which makes it even more difficult for newcomers or those who get pushed out of their homes due to the rent spike to find new, affordable living accommodations.

In short, people who have lived in Berlin for a long time, and who are not rich, are losing their homes to people who can afford to pay more. Or maybe they can barely afford to stay in place, but have no money left for anything else. Either way, they're not happy about it. There were substantial protests last year.

The next question is, why has the Berlin government chosen to listen to these unhappy people?

  • Partly it is because these people are voters, and elected officials want to keep their jobs.
  • Partly, in the left-wing parties, there is a philosophical belief that the desires of renters (to keep a roof over their heads, to remain in a strong and familiar community) are more important than the desires of landlords (to make a profit).
  • I have also heard a "practical" argument: if only rich people can afford to live in the city, who will fill the lower-paid jobs? (I'm not sure if that specific argument has been used in Berlin, but it has been used in other cities. Also, I am not commenting on whether or not that argument is correct/plausible.)
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    Lots of comments deleted. Please remember that the goal of comments should be to improve the answer, not to discuss its subject matter. Please read the help article about the commenting privilege before you engage in comment debates. – Philipp Feb 27 '20 at 9:27
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    In France, rent have been frozen after WWII and for decades. One of the consequences was landlord forced to sell. For some left wing economists, that can be considered as an indirect redistribution of wealth. – Ernest Jones Feb 28 '20 at 9:16
  • listening to the people is ok, and the OP does not dispute this, but simply asks the question of whether this actually solves anything, because it doesn't seem so based on the arguments mentioned in the question. This answer does not address the main point of the question. – Andrei Feb 28 '20 at 14:19
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    @Andrei The question asks why they restricted rents. The reason they restricted rents is because rents were too high when they didn't. Someone else has asked a question on economics.se about the results. – user253751 Feb 28 '20 at 15:33
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    I feel this answer overlooks the kind of thinking involved in design of good, working systems. If you create a system with certain constraints, such as 'limit property construction and confine property to within X km of Berlin' and set certain rules like 'let the richest buy property and charge rent at will', you a) have no free market but a constrained one and b) your system will result in the richest few owning everything. That some people argue that this is also right and just is incidental – Frank Feb 29 '20 at 21:56

Rent for new buildings isn't capped (at least not by this new law), so the cap shouldn't interfere with new buildings. Rent may also be increased up to a point when a building is modernized.

The cap was implemented because the market didn't work for a lot of people who needed to spend more and more of their income on rent or be driven out of Berlin. The market also failed to build an adequate amount of new housing before the cap (fewer housing than needed for new residents were build, and the city actually build 25% of new housing itself). Experience has also shown that the market reacts to new buildings not with lower, but with increased rent. And despite the high need for affordable apartments, there was a high amount of vacancy. Because of this, the cap was very popular among voters (over 70% approval).

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    @MagnusJørgensen the linked wikipedia article ("Im Gegenteil sei für 80 deutsche Städte belegt, dass „mit steigenden Neubauaktivitäten die Durchschnittsmieten eher steigen“"), which gives as source a letter (see chapter 4) from urban development scientists. – tim Feb 26 '20 at 9:07
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    @tim I don't think it's entirely unreasonable on an English site to expect cites to be in English. – Acccumulation Feb 28 '20 at 3:59
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    @Acccumulation And I normally don't use German cites, but as this is a question about Germany, I feel that it is to be expected that most cites on the issue will be in German. – tim Feb 28 '20 at 8:09
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    Interesting aspect that prices are rising and so does occupancy. Wouldn't then some tax on non-occupancy have solved this issue better than price-capping. Price-capping might be a good measure to buy time, but it can't solve the issue on itself, so parallel solutions are needed. A time will come when the capping will be removed and it's not gonna be pretty. – Andrei Feb 28 '20 at 14:23

Because the Berlin government fails to understand (or at least publicly acknowledge) that price freezes don't work. This has been proven time and time again, but it is easy for politicians to ignore the physical reality of how the world operates, as long as it brings them more votes during the next election. Case in point:

  1. No, rent control does not work — it actually benefits the rich and hurts the poor
  2. Why Rent Control Doesn’t Work
  3. What does economic evidence tell us about the effects of rent control?
  4. The Evidence Against Rent Control
  5. The Effects of Rent Control Expansion on Tenants, Landlords, and Inequality: Evidence from San Francisco
  6. See a related discussion on Economics.SE

Nothing good would be achieved by this policy, so it would most likely be shut down after a few years - just like it was shut down in every other city that experimented with the idea.

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    Source 1 makes a point (that people don't move out) which I don't actually understand how it's bad. The point is so people don't have to move out. It uses an example of someone renting a 6-room apartment he doesn't use, but he could strike a deal with his landlord to swap it for a smaller one with even less rent, and the landlord would benefit. Source 2 kinda has a point, but it'll still even out over the long run. Source 3 actually says that it's good (makes it easier to owner-occupy). Source 4 is blocked in Europe. Source 5 only complains about the law having loopholes. – user253751 Feb 26 '20 at 19:27
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    Source 2 also jumps straight from concrete effects ("more owner-occupiers") to abstract concepts ("less supply of housing") without explaining the link. Owner-occupiers are consuming housing, are they not? – user253751 Feb 26 '20 at 19:31
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    I gave you thumbs up. You could improve your answer by bringing some of the discussion in your citations onto the page here. For example, the motivation of owners to keep property values high includes voting for city laws that tend to reduce housing supply. Berlin is not the most egregious example of this, but it is clearly there. – puppetsock Feb 26 '20 at 20:10
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    @Philipp Does this really answer the question? It insults Berlin government and Berlin voters by saying 'they're just stupid'. And why because in opinion of poster 'it doesn't work' (as intended)? Proof is then opinion in pundit papers from elsewhere about elsewhere, not Berlin. So now that we know you oppose the Berlin decision on ideological grounds, can you add some background about Berlin? 'What did they argue in favour for it' seems to be the question. – LаngLаngС Feb 27 '20 at 10:23
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    @LangLangC we've got hundreds of posts on Politics.SE which question the intelligence of various governments and voter groups. If you open a question on Meta.SE, I'll list plenty of them. As for Berlin's arguments - I fail to find anything unique in their reasoning, at least not in English language media. Their arguments are the same as in every other city that played with the idea. – JonathanReez Feb 27 '20 at 17:06

None of us can know the true reason why, as none of us has been involved in the decisions. I want to provide some contextual and historical information that might enable us to understand the decision.

It is important to know that previously, Berlin used an instrument called the "Mietenspiegel" to dynamically freeze rents. This has been in place since the western Berlin housing shortage (I think it was in the seventies, but it is WAY before my time.)

So a "freeze" has already been in place for decades. An apartment's rent was previously capped to a value based on a calculation involving the neighbourhoods mean rent and some other aspects about the location and features of the apartment. During a lease there are strict limits to how rent can be raised. When a new tennant moves in, there is some more freedom how the rent can be raised legally. In any case, rents above the limit imposed by the Mietenspiegel are illegal. These limits are slightly above the mean value.

In some parts of Berlin, a high flux of occupants, mainly students who move to Berlin to attend one of the three universities but then leave after graduating, enabled landlords to perform many more rent increases than in neighbourhoods where families have been living for years in the same apartment. This locally caused the mean rent to start rising, and the formula used in the Mietenspiegel lost its ability to curb rent increase.

Oddly, most of the rent increase actually doesn't happen in the posh central and western Districts - the people living there hardly move out and so the rent stays stable (at a rather high level). The problem affects those districts that are slightly outside, yet in range for commuters working in the centre. So for cash-strapped workers, moving further out is actually not an option.

Aside the point other people had already made, that this makes a lot of voters unhappy: There are a number of Laws and regulations in place (for example sponsorships to universities and unemployment benefits). Many of these define upper limits to rents that are paid by the government. For example tt became nearly impossible for students to find housing in Berlin that could be covered by the state sponsorship. Recently the limit paid to students for rent had to be raised. But since this decision covers all of Germany, it became an issue to the federal budget, so political pressure was there to act.

Interestingly, in districts with a high percentage of privately owned homes, the rent increase is less of a problem. There are a number of corporations which are documented to be driving forces of rent increase, because they own a majority of the apartments in certain districts and/or are notorious for exaggerating on rent.

By capping rent prices, it is hoped that those corporations "cooperatively" sell off their "uneconomic" possessions to diversify the ownership in highly monopolized quarters, because there are indications that this might help the Mietenspiegel to regain its functions.

The German Grundgesetz (which defines core principles and values of the state, similar to the constitution of the USA) has a provision that allows the state to expropriate housing and ground when the greater good is affected. So there are voices calling for those corporations to be expropriated. One might guess that this cap might also be an attempt to prevent more drastic steps.

Probably there is a lot more to say here. The discussion has been going for at least a decade already.

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    "allows the state to disapropiate housing and ground when the greater good is affected." - I wish this was more common. Economic freedom is good, but it shouldn't take precedence over the actual well-being of real people. – user253751 Feb 27 '20 at 10:46
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    @user253751 To my knowledge it is extremely rarely utilized, but rather serves as "strategic" argument. There have been a number of cases where the owner was negligient of taking care of the property, to my knowledge in all cases the owner sold and was never depossesed. – antipattern Feb 27 '20 at 10:57
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    The fact that it's rarely utilized is not a problem (in fact it's probably a good thing), but it's refreshing to hear of a constitution that basically says "if someone is hurting the greater good then the state should intervene." – user253751 Feb 27 '20 at 11:04
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    @gerrit I think it's usually a very specific power for very specific scenarios (like when you are blocking a planned road/railway/power line). Not a generic "when it's for the greater good". (I'm also aware that "greater good" is more open to abuse since politicians can define it to mean almost anything, if voters don't care.) – user253751 Feb 27 '20 at 13:36
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    @EvilSnack Shouldn't be a problem if you have some way to ensure that the government actually represents the people. I don't know how exactly Germany manages that. Remember that if a government wants to, they can just straight-up ignore the constitution anyway! Even in America! – user253751 Feb 28 '20 at 12:56

I'm surprised to note that no one has mention services like AirBnB. I do not know if this is the case for Berlin, but other cities with a significant tourist sector, like Reykjavik for instance, has had the problem of people buying apartments and then renting them out within services like the aforementioned.

This causes a situation were residents are pushed away in favour for short term "residents" in the form of tourists searching a place to stay at. Freezing the rents might be an attempt of preventing a city becoming void of permanent residents.

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    Queenstown, NZ is a town in which this happened, where it has not been constrained. The linked paper's abstract says there are 200 AirBNBs for every 1000 residents. Even ignoring whatever other side-effects such a number of tourists has, that means the available housing for permanent residents is decreased by 20-50%. – user253751 Feb 27 '20 at 12:31
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    This problem certainly exists in Berlin, and is supposed to be addressed by legislation, but I don't see how a rent freeze is intended against AirBnB-ification. The rental cap does not apply to renting out for 3 days on AirBnB, so if any case this would make AirBnB-ification worse. Have any proponents citing the AirBnB problem arguing in favour of the rental cap? – gerrit Feb 27 '20 at 13:09
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    Maybe. Why is that a bad thing, though? Will freezing rent prices help with this problem? How, if it simply means that AirBnB becomes even more profitable for the people renting their flats out? – Luaan Feb 27 '20 at 13:25
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    @BjörnLarsson My point is not so much that rent control is ineffective at combating AirBnB, my point is that I don't believe it is at all given as the reason by anyone, which is why I would invite you to add some sources/citations to proof me wrong. – gerrit Feb 27 '20 at 15:18
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    I don't think AirBnB is much of a factor here, as Berlin has already a ban "Ferienwohnungen" as they call it. – antipattern Feb 28 '20 at 8:48

This is like asking 'why do the central banks continue to prop up the global economy with quantitive easing'? Because they have to otherwise we all end up in the dark ages, and the dark ages is what a free market would deliver.

You are asking a question but providing the answer at the same time. Berlin is freezing rent hikes to prevent rent price explosion. What you seem to be doing is suggesting that the free market should be given reign regardless in a thinly disguised ideological statement.

The notion of a free market.... in an economy where a dozen central banks create the credit needed for everyone to survive, at the behest of a handful of national governments , and where 100 or so firms produce nearly everything the whole world consumes , and where less than 10 corporate leaders own most of the mass media, and where 2 nations alone hold 99.9 % of the destructive military power of the world....is a ridiculous naive fantasy.

There is no free market. So as a question on face value, it should be closed as you provide your own answer. As an ideological statement, or question as to why Berlin is abandoning the free market, the question is also out of place because there was no free market to start with, and any decrease in regulation would only lead to further inequality.

  • Interesting, but if this is an answer and not a comment, it needs to address the actual question as worded more directly. – agc Feb 28 '20 at 3:06
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    @agc yeah. I think the question is an oblique way of saying "the free market should be given free reign" because OP answers his own question, literally providing the answer in the Euronews quote – Frank Feb 28 '20 at 7:41
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    @Frank I think this is the beginning of a valid answer but it needs to be elaborated a lot. We've all been told the free market is good for us. Why, specifically, is that a lie? – user253751 Feb 28 '20 at 13:09
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    (If the "leftist government is stupid" answer can get upvotes, so should this one...) – user253751 Feb 28 '20 at 13:09
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    This is true, but I don't think the military power of the USA is why they introduced rent control, nor is quantitative easing. – gerrit Mar 1 '20 at 0:03

Look what happened to cities like London. The "free market" rules brought benefits only for the speculation. Why? Because houses in London are marketed as an investment good, not as a place for people to live in. The main problem in London is that people from all over the world have been persuaded to buy there, few years ago when the wave of Russian buyers was ebbing the Chinese came in. How can a market set fair prices when some people have to buy out of necessity but there are also a lot more who buy for an investment, thus inflating the demand? How can a market set fair prices when the space to place the goods to sell is naturally limited while the buyers coming from all over the world don't have the same limit?

A lot of people already knew this, they knew that in Berlin the same could happen and they the started preparing their speculations shortly after the fall of the Wall. When the new buildings eventually were completed a lot of newspapers all over the world started writing that Berlin was cool (how many articles about how Berlin is cool!), that Berlin had very cheap housing and that it was a great place to invest in real estate. The speculation worked and the prices were eventually inflated.

You can call it capitalism, but it is a capitalism skewed by big media that can push all the buyers to pile on the same place inflating the prices. Furthermore in the real estate sector they can exploit the combination of people who buy out of necessity and people who buy out of gullibility, thus making a lot profits.

The people who live in Berlin are still paying the price for this speculation, some rents might be frozen, but relocating or buying will require ever increasing expenses.


As a person who lived in Berlin for 5 years I can tell you that the situation went completely crazy in that short period of time.
If you rent a 1 room flat in Berlin and you have the minimal allowed salary then you have nothing to eat after you pay for electricity and heating.
I'm a senior software developer so I could afford that but what for? I left this otherwise amazing city because of costs.
I understand the free market but what was happening was just rush to make Berlin a city of rich only people.


There are many good answers already, but I think it is valuable here to consider the political history of Berlin, which affects the present-day political discourse.

Berlin is not like Munich, Frankfurt, or Hamburg.

Between WW II and 1989/1990, Berlin was divided in West and East.

West Berlin was a capitalist enclave in communist-controlled East Germany. It was popular with left-wing people. Firstly, there was no military service there. Secondly, since a natural economy could hardly develop in such an enclave with difficult logistics, the government was quite generous with public subsidies. A good place to be an artist living in a squatted home living off public money. This developed a left-wing culture.

East Berlin was the capital of East Germany. The state owned all housing.

After the reunification, everything changed in Berlin. Overall for the better, almost everyone would say, but as the special status for West Berlin dropped away and the new government invested heavily in East Berlin, gentrification set in. Housing in East Berlin was either demolished, redeveloped, or privatised. The housing along the street that was one day built as the Stalinallee, now Karl-Marx-Allee, became an object of capitalist speculation, where some companies made a lot of money without laying a single brick of housing (of course this was made possible by political decisions). The symbolic meaning of this is significant.

But Berlin still has a strong left-wing political culture, and a majority of voters vote on the left. They don't want the Berlin of the alternative cultures to disappear even more. They don't want Berlin to become like other cities, where the poor are driven out with rents of €20/m²/month or more. They inherently distrust large corporations speculating with real estate and many would be happy to see them disappear completely. Yet they know Berlin is hip and trendy that this will only increase further, for example, with Tesla building a megafactory on the outskirts of Berlin (technically in Brandenburg state, but explicitly due to the proximity to Berlin).

An ongoing popular initiative proposes to revert the privatisations of the 1990s and expropriate the big capitalist landlords that gobbled up the privatised housing in the 1990s (most of which was built by the communist state and not by private companies). As this is too radical for the centre-left social-democrats in the city government (and I think the greens are also hesitant), the red-green city government settled on rent control as a moderate compromise.

In a nutshell — why did they settle on rent control?

  • Because expropriation was not politically achievable, and
  • because they want to keep rents low, and
  • because voters believe letting the market set the price would drive poor people such as artists out of the city or prevent them from moving in in the first place, but voters want to keep such people in the city, and
  • because there is always a degree of NIMBYism (or Tempelhofer Feld would have seen some good affordable housing built already), and
  • because they don't trust economists telling them what to do.

Minimum wage is also against market forces, but the government intervenes for various reasons. Why not let market forces decide minimum wages? Market forces place minimal value on plebiscite mental health and debt.

Freezing of rent caps is not very different from enforcing minimum wage. it sais "eviction and debt due to limited real-estate have to be weighed against landlord profit"

In the USA markets can charge $2500 dollars for a day's hospital visit and other market de-restrictions have social consequences that are not acceptable in Europe.

USA grid road design is more adaptable than European cities with complex road geometry, The work/residence/traffic ecosystems are too complicated to be governed by markets, i.e. parks would not be economically profitable, traffic would be chaos, there would be no zone demarcation, planning permission would be subject to payment, rather than local consensus. The cities require long term strategy.

Socio-economic ecosystems with complex traffic, commuting, shopping and work-zone routes, cities can be degraded by market forces, creating social stress, higher traffic, longer commuting times, short-term chaotic development.

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    I think paragraph 4 only makes sense if you define "well-governed" to exclude those things - if the city sprawls more than it needs to, due to an abundance of parks, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I don't think "complex road geometry and boundaries" has anything whatsoever to do with markets. (You could say they result from having a free market in road layout in the past, unlike some USA cities that lie on a grid, but I don't think they affect the market) – user253751 Feb 27 '20 at 12:34
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    Some city parks charge for access. In Volkspark Potsdam, visitors pay €1.50, discounted, winter, or transit price is €0.50, if caught without a ticket fine is €3.00. Kids are free. – gerrit Feb 27 '20 at 13:02
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    @Luaan When you buy a flat, do you normally also buy a share in all nearby parks? Somehow I doubt it. – user253751 Feb 27 '20 at 15:05
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    Actually, minimum wage is a harmful concept too, as it breaks down the market equilibrium and disproportionately affects small businesses. Something like guaranteed income would solve the underlying problem a lot better. – JonathanReez Feb 27 '20 at 17:13
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    Work slaves supporting banking loans sounds like a bad idea to me... what is the conclusion of the statement? Is Berlin's central area heavy on property development? re-development, at best, it's very rare to knock down 1950's buildings in berlin probably, it's not very high-rise. Same in london, 98% of the housing is georgian and only requires internal renovations which don't need mortgages. – aliential Feb 28 '20 at 0:43

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