Why doesn't Russia object to Norway's NATO membership like it does to that of Finland, Ukraine, and Georgia? Is it because the border with Norway is much shorter and basically in the middle of nowhere high up north?
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Norway has been in NATO from day one.
Norway and NATO As a founding member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, Norway has been an active participant in NATO since the signing of the North Atlantic Treaty in Washington on the 4th of April 1949.
Russia's communicated grievance about NATO's actual and potential expansion concerns states admitted since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Also, Norway's membership, with its geography, small population and total lack of cultural affinity with Russia is much less of risk and snub to Russian security and self-view than "losing" Georgia or Ukraine.
As to Finland, it had been pushed into an effective neutrality, one that it did not always appreciate much, during the Cold War. But while the circumstances of that neutrality were not always pleasant to the Finns, neutrality itself seemed broadly popular. For them to consider joining NATO is a strong indication of the lack of trust that Russia in its current state engenders in its neighbors.
Finland, while small, is also much closer to the major city of St. Petersburg.
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12Norway and Finland have very different history vis-à-vis Russia: Finland was a part of the Russian empire, conquered from Sweden. It became independent for the first time after the Russian revolution, like the Baltic states, but managed to remain independent - although after a bloody Winter war and giving up some of its territory. It was a hard learned lesson that having a mighty hostile neighbor is not a good idea.– Roger V.Mar 1, 2022 at 9:03
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7FWIW: For the first time ever, a poll that came out yesterday (so conducted just before the Russian offensive) showed the majority of the Finns in favor of joining NATO. Anyway, like the Ukrainian bid to join EU, such changes are not carried out overnight. It may be a good idea (I personally would vote in favor), but if this current crisis passes (hopefully not a big IF), it might still be prudent to think it over. Meanwhile, Finland has been participating in several NATO partnership programs already, so for the purposes of our armed forces the change would not be that abrupt. Mar 1, 2022 at 11:24
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@RogerVadim, re "having a mighty hostile neighbor is not a good idea": I'm sure the Finns have learned that lesson by now and will not repeat that mistake ;-) Mar 1, 2022 at 14:54
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2@StephanKolassa I think being non-aligned is a difficult balancing act, requiring special political skills from the country leadership - few countries succeeded in this. Also, although the Finns technically lost the Winter war, they incurred on the USSR the losses that even a dictator like Stalin could barely afford.– Roger V.Mar 1, 2022 at 14:58
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2@StephanKolassa Yes. I belong to the generations of Finns brought up "not to forget to look at the map". In other words, us joining NATO is not magically going to move Russia further away. This is why a balancing has been historically required (I appreciate the tact the Italian Philosopher showed while writing it down). A part of the balancing act was that Sweden, behind us, is a little bit bigger and richer. Mar 1, 2022 at 15:43
Who says they don't? Of course, it's not on the same terms as for countries that aren't yet NATO members, but Russia objects to pretty much every NATO-related event in Norway, e.g. (you'll want to access the original for the embedded/supporting links, which are numerous):
In Russian framings of military activity, Norway often figures as merely one part of the US military system, a launchpad for potential US ‘aggression’. By late 2018, Norway was routinely described as one of many European sites for the NATO/US ‘bases’ that were ‘surrounding Russia’. Whereas NATO presented its large-scale Trident Juncture exercise in Norway in 2018 as defensive, with the overarching aim of demonstrating ‘the credibility of its [NATO’s] military deterrent and the unity of its membership’, the Russian side declared: ‘Even if NATO says otherwise, Trident Juncture is really preparation for a large-scale armed conflict in regions bordering with the Russian Federation’. When in May 2021, Tromsø opened a port for US nuclear submarines, the view of Norway as an arena of aggressive NATO expansion was reiterated, with the submarine port being the ‘next NATO outpost on Norwegian territory’. Moreover, Norway is increasingly construed as a hostile agent in its own right. Previous accusations that Norway was intentionally destroying good-neighbourly relations by giving in to US demands have been reiterated. Norway is seen as pursuing a ‘politicized approach’, ‘undermining confidence and predictability in bilateral relations’ and acting as if Russia were a threat in the North.
Other military events in 2021 have further cemented Russia’s worldview of NATO as ‘encroaching upon’ Russian borders after Crimea. In February/March 2021, four US B-1B Lancer bombers were sent for first-time temporary deployment to Ørland Air Station in central Norway. In a Russian MFA briefing, ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova explicitly stated that this ‘decision by Oslo’ was seen as one action in ‘a whole chain of actions intensifying military activity in the high north and in the immediate vicinity of Russian borders’. Zakharova employed even stronger rhetoric when Norway’s defence deal with the USA was made public in April 2021: it was taken as yet another proof of Oslo gradually abandoning the policy of ‘self-imposed restraints’, in a manner ‘fully in line with the policy of military build-up and an active involvement of NATO in the Arctic’.
Official Russian statements on Norway also reflect the deepening view that NATO always says one thing but in practice does something else. When, in September 2020, Norway joined British and US ships sailing into the Russian economic zone, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs expressed ‘serious concerns’, contrasting the ‘supposed’ aims of NATO’s and Norway’s actions (‘to support freedom of navigation’) with what the ministry presented as reality: a ‘general build-up of NATO’s military presence in the high latitudes’.
Others already outlined the key differences between Norway and Finland, both geographically, historically and also from a Russian perspective. I want to add the following. A local newspaper published the following map (that appeared in Pravda back in 2009).
You see that it marks both Norway and Finland as "partners" (if I can at all read cyrillic alphabets).
Emil Jeřábek translated the other categories in the legend, see the comment (thanks). It is apparent that a Russian dream of future Europe is depicted in this map as opposed to the their view of the situation in 2009.
Interesting that Sweden, Poland, Rumania, Georgia and the Baltic States are listed as "enemies". The red category of "Club of friends of Russia?" feels like an optimistic way of looking at things. Possibly illuminating, nevertheless.
Since then:
- Russia has become more active on the Arctic Ocean. This affects Norway quite a bit. For example Norway controls Svalbard/Spitzbergen by a treaty (that among other things allows Russia to keep mining in Svalbard). If the Barents Sea becomes a key to the economic use of the Arctic region, the presence of Russian air force/navy in the area will make the Norwegians a bit more nervous. Similarly, the Russians eye increased activity of NATO in the area suspiciously.
- Sweden and Finland have joined some NATO partnership programs. In spite of Swedish and Finnish reassurances that they would not allow their territory to be used for an invasion against Russia, the Russians obviously prefer the status quo of non-aligned Sweden+Finland to them being a part of NATO. That's why I see the attack on Ukraine as a counterproductive move from Putin. It's like he wants to drive us both into NATO. The logical explanation is thus that Ukraine is very important, Sweden+Finland (and the Baltic region in general) less so.
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8What’s up with the partition of Ukraine into three pieces, one being marked as “integrated in Russian Federation”, one (along with Belarus, Kazakhstan, and others) as “integrated in a union with Russia”? Is this map some kind of imperialist’s pipe dream? Mar 1, 2022 at 12:47
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5FWIW, here’s a full translation of the legend: “Friends of Russia” club / partners / mediators or neutral countries / enemies / Euro-american core / Russian bases in Europe / NATO countries / countries and territories integrated in the Russian Federation / countries and territories integrated in a union with Russia / countries that established a military union / Russian “war trophies”: Abkhazia and S. Ossetia. Mar 1, 2022 at 13:16
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1@convert Pan-slavism in action? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Romanians are not slavonic, or? At least their language is very different. They do have historical ties to, for example, Serbs, for having fought the Ottoman empire together. Mar 1, 2022 at 13:53
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5I can explain what the Bulgaria case is (as of 2009, I am Bulgarian): 10-15% pan-slavism, 10-15% inertia and 70-80% of having high-ranking officials (e.g. ministers and major political partieS, not a single party, leaders) profoundly corrupt and having Russian dependency. Bulgaria was openly pictured as "the Russian Trojan Horse in the EU (we joined 2010) and NATO (joined 2007)". It is somewhat different in 2022 and even more different in March 2022. We still have a lot of dependent politicians, but some of them are marginalized and others keep quiet on the Russian topic.– fraxinusMar 1, 2022 at 15:18