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Historically, during events like presidential impeachment proceedings, certain House members have expressed safety concern due to the public exposure of their votes, leading to a desire for secret voting.

I am interested in understanding the legitimacy and procedural aspects of conducting secret votes in the US House of Representatives, particularly when concerns for members' safety are a factor.

Specifically:

  1. Under what circumstances, if any, does the House of Representatives have the authority or mechanisms to conduct votes in secrecy?
  2. What procedures or rules would need to be invoked or followed to ensure a vote is conducted in secrecy?
  3. Can members express concerns about their safety as a valid reason for requesting a secret vote, and how is such a request typically evaluated or approved?
  4. Are there historical precedents or instances where secret votes have been conducted in the House of Representatives due to concerns about members' safety, and if so, what were the outcomes?

I would appreciate factual information, references to relevant rules or precedents, and insights into the legal and procedural aspects of this issue. Understanding the mechanisms in place for addressing safety concerns in the voting process is of particular interest.

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    Related: Why are congressional votes not secret?
    – Rick Smith
    Commented Sep 30, 2023 at 19:08
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    @RickSmith: in fact the 2nd answer there rather answers the Q. Somewhat theoretically since no [truly] secret votes have been undertaken (unlike in the EP). But it does discuss/say that/when entering them on the record is required. Commented Sep 30, 2023 at 22:41
  • To @JoeW and others who inquired whether the other/suggested post or any of the answers there adequately address my questions, I've taken the system's recommended approach and made specific edits to my question. I have provided a more detailed breakdown of my inquiries, explicitly stating why the other post or its answers fall short in providing complete answers. Commented Oct 1, 2023 at 11:27
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    I still feel that it is a duplicate as it addresses why the votes are not secret with the constitution and transparency being the key factor. Being able to have secret votes removes all accountability.
    – Joe W
    Commented Oct 1, 2023 at 14:07
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    As a side note, they have the ability to do voice votes in congress which lets people hide how they voted. This does cause situations where congress takes action and everyone ends up denying that they supported that action.
    – Joe W
    Commented Oct 1, 2023 at 14:40

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The answer from Rick Smith to this question is incorrect in multiple material respects.

Short Answer

Each house of Congress has an absolute, non-justiciable legal right to keep the votes of its members secret for any reason it deems fit, and procedural rules to do that.

But, the House, in particular, has only done this six times since 1825 (it did so frequently through the War of 1812). None of those times (since 1825) was out of concern for the personal safety of the members. Most often it is done with regard to national security and foreign affairs matters.

The Senate also can and does have secret proceedings and votes, which are about ten times more common there since the 1920s, and were very common before then. But, again, this has never been for the personal safety of the Senators in modern times.

A request to hold a secret ballot for personal safety reasons (or to withhold the tally of a recorded vote from the public) would almost surely be rejected as a practical matter, even though such a request would be legal and would be up to a vote of a majority of members present at the time.

Long Answer

The Relevant Laws and Rules

  1. Under what circumstances, if any, does the House of Representatives have the authority or mechanisms to conduct votes in secrecy?

  2. What procedures or rules would need to be invoked or followed to ensure a vote is conducted in secrecy?

Article I, Section 5 of the U.S. Constitution states in the pertinent parts:

Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.

Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.

So, the members voting on a particular measure don't have to be recorded unless a 20% minority demands it and even then, this can be kept secret.

One commentary on this provision notes that:

The secrecy provision applies to whether the House or the Senate will have its daily proceedings accessible to the public. Both history and judicial opinion have determined that each house possesses complete discretion over what proceedings shall be secret. Field v. Clark (1892). For the first twenty years of the country, secret sessions were frequent. Beginning with the War of 1812, however, both houses have kept most of their proceedings open to the public. The Senate is most likely to hold secret sessions, but over the last seventy-five years, it has done so only during debates over impeachment, classified information, and national defense. The Senate did keep its committee sessions closed, however, until the 1970s.

The U.S. Supreme Court in Field v. Clark held (as explained in the Official Syllabus of the case) that:

The signing by the Speaker of the House of Representatives and by the President of the Senate, in open session, of an enrolled bill is an official attestation by the two Houses of such bill as one that has passed Congress, and when the bill thus attested receives the approval of the President and is deposited in the Department of State according to law, its authentication as a bill that has passed Congress is complete and unimpeachable.

It is not competent to show from the journals of either House of Congress that an act so authenticated, approved and deposited, did not pass in the precise form in which it was signed by the presiding officers of the two Houses and approved by the President.

As long as the presiding officer of a House says that a particular bill document was passed by that House, this is conclusively true. Neither house is under any obligation to report to the public how particular members voted on it.

Article I, Section 7 of the U.S. Constitution also contains the following language related to this issue (requiring certain kinds of voting to overturn a Presidential veto):

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

A Congressional Research Service Report last updated December 30, 2014 discusses the matter and the historical practice in greater detail. It notes that (footnotes omitted):

Authority for the House and Senate to hold secret sessions appears in Article I, Section 5, of the Constitution: “Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings.... Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy.... ”

Both chambers have implemented these constitutional provisions through rules and precedents.

In the House, Rule XVII, clause 9 governs secret sessions. A secret session may be held when the House has received confidential communications from the President or when a Member informs the House that the Member has communications that should be kept secret. A secret session may occur pursuant to a special rule or by a motion to resolve into a secret session made in the House. The House has also agreed on one occasion to a unanimous consent request authorizing the chair to resolve the House into secret session pursuant to this rule. A motion to resolve into secret session is in order in the House; it is not in order in the Committee of the Whole. A Member who offers such a motion announces the possession of confidential information and moves that the House go into a secret session. The motion is not debatable, and no point of order is available to require the communication at issue to be disclosed before the vote. If the motion is agreed to by a simple majority (a quorum being present), the chamber and galleries are cleared. When the only persons present are Members, officials allowed under Rule XVII, clause 9, and staff designated by the Speaker as essential to the proceedings, the chamber doors are closed, and the House begins the secret session. The Member making the motion is then recognized under the hour rule for debate. In addition, under Rule X, clause 11, paragraphs (g)(2)(D) through (g)(2)(G), the House Select Committee on Intelligence may move that the House hold a secret session to determine whether classified information held by the committee should be made public. This procedure is invoked only if the committee desires such a disclosure and the President personally objects to it.

In the Senate, any Senator may make a motion that the Senate go into closed session, and, if seconded by another Senator, the Senate will immediately proceed into a secret session. Under Senate Rule XXI, the presiding officer exercises no discretion about going into secret session if the motion is made and seconded. The motion is not debatable. A Senator may interrupt another Senator to make the motion and may cause the other Senator to lose the floor. Once in a secret session, the Senate operates under applicable portions of Senate Rules XXIX and XXXI. Rule XXIX specifies which of the Senate’s officers and staff may stay during the closed session and authorizes the presiding officer to include other staff at his discretion. Rule XXXI requires Senate business to be transacted in open session, but states that the Senate by majority vote may determine that a specific treaty, nomination, or other matter may be considered in secret session. A motion to return to open session is in order at any time, is not debatable, and requires a simple majority vote, a quorum being present. When the Senate is conducting an impeachment trial, it may hold deliberations behind closed doors. During this time, Senate standing rules are supplemented by additional rules, called “Rules of Procedure and Practice in the Senate when Sitting on Impeachment Trials.”

Confidentiality and Publication Requirements

Members and staff of both houses are prohibited from divulging information from secret sessions. In the Senate, staff are sworn to secrecy, whereas in the House, staff must sign an oath not to reveal what happens in the secret session, unless the House decides to make its actions public. Violations of secrecy are punishable by the disciplinary rules of a chamber. A Member may be subject to a variety of punishments, including loss of seniority, fine, reprimand, censure, or expulsion. An officer or employee may be fired or subject to other internal disciplinary actions. The proceedings of a secret session are not published unless the relevant chamber votes, during the meeting or at a later time, to release them. Then, those portions released are printed in the Congressional Record. Under Rule XVII, if the House decides not to release the transcript of a secret session, the Speaker refers the proceedings to the appropriate committee(s) for evaluation. The committees are required to report to the House on their ultimate disposition of the transcript. If a committee decides not to release the transcript, it becomes part of the committee’s noncurrent records (pursuant to House Rule VII, clause 3) and is transferred to the Clerk of the House for transmittal to the Archivist of the United States at the National Archives and Records Administration. Transcripts may be made available to the public after 30 years unless the Clerk of the House determines that such availability “would be detrimental to the public interest or inconsistent with the rights and privileges of the House” (Rule VII, clauses 3 and 4). If the Senate does not approve release of a secret session transcript, it is stored in the Office of Senate Security and ultimately sent to the National Archives and Records Administration. The proceedings remain sealed until the Senate votes to remove the injunction of secrecy.

Actual Practice

  1. Can members express concerns about their safety as a valid reason for requesting a secret vote, and how is such a request typically evaluated or approved?

  2. Are there historical precedents or instances where secret votes have been conducted in the House of Representatives due to concerns about members' safety, and if so, what were the outcomes?

This portion of this answer relies heavily on the Congressional Research Service report from 2014 linked above.

Members can express concerns about anything they want as a reason for requesting a secret vote, but if 20% of the members present request it, their vote will be recorded in the journal of the house in question which may or may not be kept secret in a separate decision.

As a practical matter, such a request would be rejected summarily and has never been approved for that reason, at least since the War of 1812 ended, when the safety concern was that invading British soldiers (who burned down the White House in that war) would use the information against members of Congress.

There is no time after the War of 1812, of which I am aware, where either house of Congress has made its proceedings secret out of concern for the safety of its members. But each house of Congress has essentially plenary discretion to do so if it wishes to do so.

A request for a secret vote due to safety concerns would be contrary to the ethos of the House, and would probably be viewed with contempt and derision by fellow members of Congress, particularly in the House.

Normally, secrecy is only invoked for national security and foreign policy matters, and for impeachment proceedings in the U.S. Senate.

There have been six secret sessions of the House since 1825, and votes were taken in some of them. There were also many secret sessions of the House until the end of the War of 1812.

There have been far more secret sessions of the Senate:

The Senate met in secret until 1794, its first rules reflecting a belief that the body’s various roles, including providing advice and consent to the executive branch, compelled it to act behind closed doors. Although legislative sessions were generally open after 1795, the Senate’s executive sessions (to consider nominations and treaties) were usually closed until 1929. Since 1929, the Senate has held 57 secret sessions, generally for reasons of national security or for consideration of impeachment questions.

A full list of modern instances where secrecy has been invoked can be found in the Congressional Research Service report.

Furthermore, many votes in both the House and the Senate are taken by voice vote (and not with unanimous consent), which does not identify who voted for and against a measure before it. But this is never, or almost never, done out of a concern for the safety of the members of Congress who are voting on a measure.

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    Thank you very much, very enlightening and comprehensive. I'm going to re-read it again on my lunch break. I appreciate you helping keep political and legal content accurate on SE. Commented Jul 18 at 12:07
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Q: Under what circumstances, if any, does the House of Representatives have the authority or mechanisms to conduct votes in secrecy?

None. It is easy to forget that the Constitution is an order by the people. ("We the People of the United States, ..., do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.") As part of that order "Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings". For the House to provide a rule for voting in secret is to say, in effect, that the people ordered the House to hide from the people the votes of their representatives.


Q: What procedures or rules would need to be invoked or followed to ensure a vote is conducted in secrecy?

There are no existing rules for conducting a vote in secret.

Immediately before the vote, the Speaker would need to invoke paragraph 10 of rule XVII in a manner contrary to the stated intent of the rule. This would be a serious abridgment of the First Amendment "freedom of the press", but the House makes its own rules, and changing a rule is not technically "mak[ing] a law".

Secret sessions

  1. When confidential communications are received from the President, or when the Speaker or a Member, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner informs the House that such individual has communications that such individual believes ought to be kept secret for the present, the House shall be cleared of all persons except the Members, Delegates, Resident Commissioner, and officers of the House for the reading of such communications, and debates and proceedings thereon, unless otherwise ordered by the House.

With visitors and the press removed, the vote could then be taken by "division" with the understanding that members will not use the "one-fifth of the quorum rule" for a recorded vote. Only the count of yeas and nays would appear in the record.

The absence of cameras and the press would prevent any identification of how any member voted. The press would rightfully challenge the action, but what was done is done.


Q: Can members express concerns about their safety as a valid reason for requesting a secret vote, and how is such a request typically evaluated or approved?*

Members can express any of their concerns to party leaders. Any such concerns are off the record. There is no privileged motion for conducting a vote in secret for any reason. Only House leadership could address that issue for all or none.

Generally, any concerns about the safety or security of members of Congress are addressed by the U.S. Capitol Police. This is unrelated to voting.

Since 1828, the U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) has provided protection for Congress. Over time, the force has grown in numbers, duties, and responsibilities.

USCP officers work to protect life and property; prevent, detect, and investigate criminal acts; and enforce traffic regulations throughout a large complex of congressional buildings, parks, and thoroughfares. Additionally, USCP officers are responsible for protecting members and officers of Congress and their families. USCP serves throughout the U.S. and its territories and possessions.


Q: Are there historical precedents or instances where secret votes have been conducted in the House of Representatives due to concerns about members' safety, and if so, what were the outcomes?

There is no record of a secret vote in the House for any reason.

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  • Thank you for your thorough response and references. I'll wait a bit longer to see if there are additional insights from other experts. While your answer is quite solid, I want to ensure all perspectives are considered before accepting it. Commented Oct 2, 2023 at 9:54
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    The first point is ludicrous. All secret services are indirectly established by the Constitution, and there are no challenges to the basic idea that government officials have the power to hide information to their constituents (SCI, classified info and so on). Why would that secrecy apply to the executive branch and to things like the intelligence or defense (legislative) comittees, but not the full house votes ? How would the preamble to the constitution establish such a precise boundary ? Absurd. Commented Oct 3, 2023 at 13:08
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    @The'BernieSanders'Party - You appear to be asking for the recorded vote to be removed after the fact. As I point out in the second question, there is no requirement for a recorded vote -- use division, not the one-fifth rule. But, that does not remove reporting by the press which could identify how each member voted. Removal of some names would show up as discrepancies in the count of the names of representatives voting and the vote total. Removal would have to be all or none. For approval of the journal, a majority could withhold approval until all names are restored.
    – Rick Smith
    Commented Oct 3, 2023 at 18:03
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    @The'BernieSanders'Party - No secret vote was ever conducted in the House as part of the official business of the House.
    – Rick Smith
    Commented Oct 22, 2023 at 0:04
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    This answer is incorrect as a matter of law. I have posted a separate answer which is correct. The comment by @RickSmith is also not correct.
    – ohwilleke
    Commented Jul 18 at 9:09

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