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We buy a lot of things from China and relatively little do we send to them. Maybe they like our smartphone designs, computers, etc, but it is clear they can design as well as build. So if I understand correctly, they buy large amounts of U.S. bonds in order to suppress their own currency and keep exports up. But why do they want to export when they don't import? I've read that China could purchase western companies, but that that might be blocked as a security issue.

The U.S. doesn't consider China to be an ally, at least not publicly. Actually, I don't care what their motivations are, I just want to ask, if I a missing something about the economic arrangement of the deal, - what it is that China buys with its proceeds from massive exports?

I found this, for example (http://www.forbes.com/sites/ianshepherdson/2013/10/23/four-big-reasons-why-china-will-keep-buying-treasuries/),

China lends to the United States by buying Treasuries because it has few other options, not as some kind of favor

China’s reserves have now reached the equivalent of $3.7 trillion, well over half of which is in the form of dollars, and they have to be held somewhere, in some form. The People’s Bank could maintain a gigantic pile of dollar bills, with smaller heaps of euros and other currencies, but they would earn no interest.

This brings us to the second key point, which is that the idea China could sell a substantial part of its dollar holdings for euros makes little sense. This action would represent foreign exchange intervention on a massive scale, and the result would be huge drop in the value of the dollar. The renminbi value of the PBOC’s dollar assets would therefore plunge, imposing a gigantic capital loss. The PBOC is not in the business of throwing money away.

However, it makes very little sense without some large assumptions and so misses my main question completely. They explain why they keep doing it, but not why they did it. It does not explain for what they are accumulating dollars and euros in the first place instead of using those currencies to purchase resources and import them on a massive scale.

It seems to be bases on the conclusion that a) the Chinese want to accumulate banknotes and be as "rich" as possible on paper just like a Wall Street company and b) it did not occur to them that foreign currencies would possibly fail over time, leaving their capital at 0. and c) that they planned at some time to reverse their trend.

Basically, it can only represent a huge charitable contribution of the Chinese government for the sake of employing its workers, keeping its own consumers poor, and gaining a weapon that would allow them to ruin international currency markets if they should want to.

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    Sholdn't be a question somewhere? – SJuan76 Sep 20 '15 at 21:46
  • Japan holds about as much US debt as China. Do you think these assumptions apply to them as well? – Gramatik Jul 23 '18 at 20:26
  • Not an expert on the subject.. but possibly. I think there are other things that China does to manipulate currency. Main takeaway though was the amount of debt relatively small relative to imports + also that they buy things not in the U.S. So its not like trading goods for debt. – user1122069 Jul 24 '18 at 19:07
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Three years later, in light of the Donald Trump Presidency which has brought additional attention and opinions to this issue, I can finally answer this question.

Not an "expert" answer.

  1. China buying treasuries is part of various practices that intentionally devalue its currency, called "currency manipulation". This makes Chinese goods cheaper and more competitive.
  2. China does 500 billion dollars of trade each year, but only owns 1.8 trillion dollars of U.S. debt. So its not anywhere near a 1-1 exchange of goods for debt.
  3. China is able to gain access to U.S. technology by secret deals with companies manufacturing there, which would not happen or would happen less if they did not devalue their currency.
  4. China does, in fact, buy things with their U.S. dollar holdings. This includes investments (where they are able), natural resources, and technology. By making may of these purchases in countries other than the U.S., the trade is often indirect.

It is also quite interesting to see, from the Trump perspective, that they view this as a loss for the U.S. and a big win for China, rather than us stealing their goods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaI4C4DONRs

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    Point 2 doesn't make any sense. Debt isn't an annualized figure like trade levels. If China used all of its US trade revenue to buy bonds, it would take 3.6 years to hold 1.8 trillion dollars of debt. On the other hand, if it spends all of its US trade revenue on other things, its US debt holdings would not change at all. – phoog Jul 23 '18 at 10:00
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    Welcome to the site! Answers here should be factual and answer the specific concerns of the question. In this case, your answer would be dramatically improved by providing evidence that this is actually China's interest in US debt, and not merely a lay-person's interpretation of the situation. – indigochild Jul 23 '18 at 20:12
  • The way I see it, it should be: "Welcome to Stack Overflow! We're not a community of experts and we can't answer any hard questions or provide thoughtful discussion, but at least we can link you somewhere else or quote you our community guidelines!" – user1122069 Jul 24 '18 at 19:19
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This question has been answered here - https://politics.stackexchange.com/a/28592/16957

To paraphrase User4012's answer:

China is not [buying US Treasury Debt] out of being nice, but of economic necessity. Warts and all, US Treasury debt is still among the very safest, least risky investments there are; and the only one at the scale that China as large investor can invest in (what are they going to do, sell US Treasuries and buy Iran Bank notes? Or Rusian debt? It may make some political statement, but very little financial sense). The fact is, they need to invest the money somewhere, to outpace inflation.

Both the premise of your question and your answer to your question need a run through Occam's razor. China certainly engages in some unsavory economic practices, but they do not buy US debt specifically to engage in these practices or to some political end. They buy US debt because China's economy is large enough that US debt is one of the few safe investments in great enough supply for them to park large amounts of money to stay ahead of inflation.

  • This should be a comment. – user1122069 Jul 24 '18 at 23:22

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