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"...people in the USA like dividing themselves up into groups..." Not everybody in the US likes this or does this. Despite my heritage (there are many hyphenated identities I could apply), I am simply an American. There is a tendency, often seen in the news media and liberal interest groups, to categorize people into ethnic, racial, religious, gender-...


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No other people does this. The USA has a fairly unique history in that the majority of its population are immigrants or descendants of relatively recent immigrants. In many other countries, this is not the case. If we take the UK as an example, the whole of the population are descendants of immigrants, but for the majority, this immigration happened many ...


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Other people do that. Eg in Germany there are "Russlanddeutsche" (Germans from Russia, which are considered "Volksdeutsche") or "Deutschtürken" (People from Turkey that emigrated to Germany themselves, or that have ancestors that did). You probably hear this more in the US though as it has more large groups of immigrants (or in the case of African-Americans,...


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Simply If I am speaking to anyone from any other country in the world then I am British. If I am speaking to an Englishman then I am Scottish. If I meet another Scotsman in Scotland then we are British but if I meet another Scotsman in England then we are both from up the road. If I meet another Scotsman abroad then we are Scottish. If it is sport then I am ...


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This is not a valid dichotomy, because "identity politics" simply means an election campaign strategy of saying "Vote for us if you belong to [demographic] because we are the party of [demographic]". But people who justify discrimination of minorities with freedom of speech rights are also a demographic which politicians can and do cater to. And I would ...


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Immigration Recency As others have mentioned, America is a country of Immigrants. To some extent, so are many other countries, including the UK, but differences exist. In the US, the native population is very, very small relative to (historically) more recent immigrants. Not so in most Old World countries. Secondly, a great many of the people here are recent ...


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I think you are focusing too much on the formal aspect of the language term here. Not all the XXX-American groups are alike. Most XXX-Americans consider themselves just Americans in everyday life, and only bring out the XXX in the rare situations when it matters. Expressed somewhat flippantly: nobody describes themselves as Irish Americans except on St. ...


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They are not mutually exclusive, but there are contentious points. Both positions are a bit ill-defined (I really needed to look up what "identity politics" and "New Left" means), so I will define them before the argument so you can pinpoint your arguments. For me the intention of "freedom of speech" is that I am able to speak out even a repulsive opinion ...


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The simplest answer is that your question is not correct in fact: you do not live in a “progressive” society. are supposed to be completely irrelevant and we should Should statements are usually indicative that whatever “ought” to be, isn’t. What's the reason behind this conflict? For hundreds of years within capitalism and protocapitalism there ...


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Short answer: No identity politics and freedom of speech aren't opposing ideals, though there is some conflict between the two as identity politics devolves. Identity politics itself derives from the freedom of association that is wrapped up in the first amendment in the U.S. with free speech. People tend to naturally associate with those they broadly agree ...


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Because that, (given the examples cited), would not be a correct use of the term privilege. The fact that Jewish culture reveres scholarship is advantageous in fields like Law, Medicine, Education, et al, where scholarship is useful; but any culture that was scholarly would have much the same advantages. For those advantages to constitute a privilege those ...


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There is a very thin line between criticizing the government of a country and criticizing the country as a whole. If you criticize the Arstotzkan government for antagonizing Kolechia, you are making a political statement. Criticizing governments is reasonable political discourse. But if you make that statement against Arstotzka as a country, or even "the ...


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Few voters are more/less likely to vote for a candidate because she is a women. A recent pew poll 71% of the public said it would not matter if a candidate for President was a woman. The only traits with less impact on support for a candidate were whether the candidate was Hispanic, Catholic, in their 40s, or attended a prestigious university. Other polls ...


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Most "other people don't do this", because they don't need to. They live in different kinds of countries. Most nations around the world, since the late 19th Century, and particularly in Europe since the 1919 Paris Peace Conference after the end of WWI, are organized around the concept of the Nation State. The idea behind this is that the country contains a ...


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I would pick from the following terms, in roughly this order: Whatever they use to describe themselves, if you are talking about a specific person or group of people. Usually people who are heavily invested in these sorts of identity politics are also invested in their own intellectual identity, and may have a term that they use that is both descriptive and ...


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The phrase "_____-American" mostly gained traction when trying to find a kinder way to describe people of Africa descent while still acknowledging that history. While certainly other countries use similarly awkward phrases, it is uniquely appealing int he USA because of high national pride, among the highest in the world, and the fact "American" is not a ...


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I would say it isn't an entirely false dichotomy. collectivism (which is what identity politics is) will always promote restrictions on speech that will threaten the collective or the political theory which underpins it.


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As a Scotsman I think I can answer this as definitively context sensitive. A current event or time served with the armed forces re-instills a British identity. . But classically in sport achievement, when an Englishman loses he becomes a Brit. And in winning, he remains English, assuming he's English. If he is you'll be sure to know it. (If he were ...


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It depends how you want to define "strength". Some correlational studies point to a stronger economy being associated with more diverse countries. Other studies point to a lower degree of social trust being associated with more diverse countries. As I said in comments, people will read these according to their prior inclination, since there's probably no ...


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The right-wing Cato Institute did a survey about punching Nazis. According to the survey, only 32% of the general population say that it is morally acceptable, and even among strong liberals the number is only 51%. Old white people are less likely to approve of punching Nazis than non-white or young people.


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So, if Jews are so over-represented in positions of power, privilege and elite circles, why is the term "Jewish Privilege" never used to describe that phenomenon? There's two reasons. 1. Jews Are Victims of Racism Let's ignore for a moment whether or not "privilege" either generally speaking or in the specific context of white people is an actual social ...


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Yes* An article published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Cohen, 2003) conducted an experiment looking at something similar. What they found was that people agreed with policies that their party supported*. That wasn't very surprising, but they did find a few other things: People agreed with their party even when their party's ...


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If you want an exact answer: You can't. Once you criticize a group, there will be always people who wants to see you as an enemy (of their cause). This is understandable because it is easy and convenient and allows to safely ignore your viewpoint. So if you criticize someone, use reputable sources (prefer neutral ones if possible), double- and triple-check ...


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If Person A tells Person B they would rather Person B not use a certain word, are any fundamental rights to freedom of speech being infringed? Is anyone actually being censored? After all, this is the typical conflict between the two "factions." No coercion, no force, no official statute involved. Just two different people saying two different things. When "...


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Freedom of speech is a cornerstone of a democratic society. Limitations to it should be carefully considered - in the end, a society has to stand or fall on the strengths of its people, not on what they are allowed or forbidden to say. Plus, there is the problem of who decides what is hate speech. Why is ridiculing some minorities considered hate speech, yet ...


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I can think of two examples that lead to the answer being no. A valid dichotomy would mean in this case that there can't be a group that identifies themselves primarily as advocates of freedom of speech. Surely this kind of group exists. Also dichotomy would require that there isn't a possibility that neither of these are of someones interest. Undoubtedly ...


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Short Answer The question is based upon a false premise. While there are ethnic based political parties in many multi-party democracies in countries with multiple ethnicities, the mere fact that any given ethnicity tends to favor one party more than another does not make it ethnic based and the examples given in the question are flawed for making that ...


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Insofar I haven't seen much beyond expert opinion on this, and most of it focused on Trump's win in Florida, where the Trump campaign advertised heavily in Spanish describing Biden as a (Venezuela-like) socialist, but for what that's worth, this was suggested about south Texas: In South Texas, for example, Trump’s “law and order” messaging and opposition to ...


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There's nothing mutually exclusive about these two. Let's consider the second statement by itself Freedom of speech was always abused to pay out on minorities. Mostly racism but lots of other groups as well. We're starting to get on top of that now. The argument being made here is that freedom of speech was abusive. The modern term here is "hate speech"....


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Politico conducted an in depth analysis of this question entitled "Trump Didn't Win The Latino Vote in Texas. He Won The Tejano Vote." According to Wikipedia: Tejanos (Spanish: [teˈhano]; singular: Tejano/a/x; Spanish for "Texan") are the Hispanic residents of the state of Texas who are culturally descended from the original Spanish-...


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