Timeline for Are there any countries that require political parties to be democratically organised (and accept members)?
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Feb 20, 2017 at 13:40 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackPolitics/status/833672625541021699 | ||
Jan 24, 2017 at 14:03 | comment | added | gerrit | @Joël No, we can't. That is a subjective judgement, not a certainty. | |
Jan 24, 2017 at 13:56 | comment | added | Joël | @gerrit: but we can certainly say that a country that would have such requirements would be very anti-democratic. | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 17:19 | comment | added | gerrit | @dannyf Whether or not such a requirement is desirable is subjective and beyond the scope of this question. | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 16:48 | comment | added | dannyf | I find the requirement to be a control of political speeches - how people organize for political purposes is a form of political speeches. Why should we prohibited non-democratic forms of political organization when we insist that government shouldn't be in thee business of controlling how people voice their views? | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 16:13 | answer | added | Pere | timeline score: 2 | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 15:46 | comment | added | Sjoerd | @MSalters Additionally, membership doesn't need to be open. So membership can be limited to the two founding members (which are, IIRC, Wilders himself and a foundation). | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 14:53 | comment | added | MSalters | @Agent_L: No, Dutch Law restricts parties to be a particular type of legal entity ("Vereniging") which by law must have 2 members. The Wilders loophole is that they don't need to be 2 human members. | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 14:42 | history | edited | gerrit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jan 23, 2017 at 14:20 | history | edited | gerrit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jan 23, 2017 at 14:18 | comment | added | gerrit | @Agent_L Indeed, and your guess may be right. See also Philipps answer, which indicates that in Germany, a party with one member that does not accept any other members would be unconstitutional. | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 14:17 | comment | added | gerrit | @suriv They could remove him from the position of party leader. Replaced overruled by ousted as this is more accurate. | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 14:13 | comment | added | suriv | "the wannabe-dictator could then be overruled by his own party even if he has a majority in parliament" Could overrule him on what? Party members cannot vote on legislation or motions of no confidence. | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 14:00 | comment | added | Agent_L | No, party with a single member is a perfect democracy as well as a perfect dictatorship. An in-party voting system would change nothing for a party with only 1 member. My wild guess is that Dutch law does require that General Assembly be an ultimate source of power in a party, it's just that GA is one person here. | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 13:24 | comment | added | gerrit | @SJuan76 Yes. The MPs are formally independent even if they are elected on his title, so they would be in a position to oust him from power. I believe the PVV officially has two members: Mr. Wilders and the Foundation for Mr. Wilders, through which it meets the legal minimum, but only one member is human. | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 13:22 | vote | accept | gerrit | ||
Jan 23, 2017 at 13:11 | comment | added | SJuan76 | Oh, and Spain requires internal democratic structures but does not specify a clear minimum, it seems that it can be as low as three (which still allows for a dictatorship since it will be me, Mom & Pop). | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 13:07 | comment | added | SJuan76 | Aren't the Netherlands a Parlamentary Monarchy? I mean, even if the party has only one member, if it succeeds it will have X MPs, and if they do not agree with Mr. Wilders policies they can vote against his measures and ever expel him from the PM position, isn't that right? | |
Jan 23, 2017 at 12:31 | history | edited | user11249 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jan 23, 2017 at 12:07 | answer | added | Philipp♦ | timeline score: 11 | |
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Jan 23, 2017 at 11:58 | history | asked | gerrit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |