Timeline for How do Western democracies justify censorship of foreign media outlets?
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| Jun 21, 2022 at 20:22 | comment | added | alamar | "I am playing word games" "at the same time, you don't consider censorship to be censorship" all right then | |
| Jun 21, 2022 at 18:56 | comment | added | prosfilaes | @alamar We could give other examples, but you're just playing word games. The question was how do they justify it, and this answer is quite clear; they don't consider companies choosing not to work with RT censorship or problematic. | |
| Jun 21, 2022 at 18:31 | comment | added | alamar | s/years/months/ | |
| Jun 21, 2022 at 18:07 | comment | added | alamar | People in your country had access to media four years ago that they do not have access now (due to deplatforming). This is censorship. I did not care about you and still not caring about you. That is not censorship. | |
| Jun 21, 2022 at 18:05 | comment | added | Yakk | @alamar So, you think you are personally censoring me? My point is your definition of censorship is not a useful one. Definitions should be useful, when they aren't, use different ones. | |
| Jun 21, 2022 at 18:00 | comment | added | alamar | @Yakk I'm not giving lectures on how to avoid censorship, rather just noting that it is in place currently. | |
| Jun 21, 2022 at 17:49 | comment | added | Yakk | @alamar Your personal failure to include my spoken word vogon poetry recordings, playing 24/7, in every room of your house, at 110 db (as envisioned by me, the creator) is censorship of my poetry? Failing that, the fact that it isn't on every channel? Every satellite? | |
| Jun 21, 2022 at 8:18 | comment | added | Criticizing Israel not allowed | @Mazura It doesn't have to be illegal to be censorship, either. | |
| Jun 20, 2022 at 23:17 | comment | added | Mazura |
+1, I also live in the country that censorship has been outlawed in for the last 231 years. Read the tag description, people. censorship : "Questions about the suppression of information for various reasons at a government level" ... MacDonalds boycotted Russia. Yeah, and? Taking your ball and going home isn't illegal; you're just a jerk if you do. It was 'justified' by their PR department, probably having been told by accounting that they're going to lose money if they don't.
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| Jun 20, 2022 at 19:01 | comment | added | user5155 | @user253751 I think the point Timur is making is that there's only one entity in any country that can actually perform censorship, and that is the government. Otherwise all of those same TV stations are also currently censoring me for choosing not to carry my TV channel. | |
| Jun 20, 2022 at 8:50 | comment | added | Criticizing Israel not allowed | @TimurShtatland it is fully possible to censor a channel because it's controlled by war criminals. They can both be true at the same time. | |
| Jun 20, 2022 at 8:26 | comment | added | alamar | @TimurShtatland You have just described censorship. You are using its description as a reason why censorship does not take place. Everybody claims the same specific thing to justify censoring everyone else. | |
| Jun 20, 2022 at 7:04 | comment | added | user5155 | I like this answer, because it highlights the fact that censorship, as claimed in the title question and pointed out by @Walter, is a fairly nebulous word. | |
| Jun 20, 2022 at 5:53 | comment | added | Kevin | @alamar: Either the other companies are legally permitted to drop RT, or they are legally prevented from doing so (because it logically can't be both or neither). The latter would violate the other companies' freedom of speech and association, so we're stuck with the former. You cannot privilege RT's speech over DirecTV's speech, for example - US law has no notion of such a thing. RT is free to broadcast whatever they want, and DirecTV is free to carry whatever they want. They're both corporate entities with exactly the same rights under the law. | |
| Jun 20, 2022 at 2:17 | comment | added | Walter | We need a word for corporate control of media other than the word "censorship" as government censorship is a different favor/type than what corporations do. Calling all forms of media control dilutes the meaning of the word censorship. | |
| Jun 19, 2022 at 22:43 | comment | added | Timur Shtatland | @alamar: How do you distinguish censorship from pure disgust with having to do any business with known war criminals? By that token, MacDonalds also censored their cheeseburgers by pulling out of Russia. The media companies did not want to be associated with perpetrators of Bucha and Mariupol. It would have been censorship if they censored also Fox News for having views similar to those on Russian Channel 1. But they did not. | |
| Jun 19, 2022 at 21:50 | comment | added | alamar | There's no mention of government in the question. In XXI century nobody would buy your "companies doing censorship is not censorship" anymore. | |
| Jun 19, 2022 at 16:54 | history | answered | Timur Shtatland | CC BY-SA 4.0 |