Timeline for Why do protests happen in the light of their apparent futility?
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| Apr 27 at 15:30 | comment | added | alamar | Quite contrary, people used to get upset but eventually they accepted the rules as it was apparent these will be enforced. | |
| Apr 27 at 15:22 | comment | added | user30575 | @alamar that is exactly why the difference in terms is important. Few should be upset by authorities breaking up a riot, pre-approved or not. Many should be upset by authorities breaking up a demonstration, especially by use of force, whether pre-approved or not. | |
| Apr 25 at 18:31 | comment | added | alamar | @user30575 in Russian Federation the difference is not "mob and riot" v.s. "demonstration" but "pre-approved" v.s. "not pre-approved". If you did not apply for approval or were refused, your demonstration will be dispersed. This trend actually started with St. Patrick's parade being dispersed, one year in 00s. Irish embassy issued a formal protest back then. | |
| Apr 25 at 16:08 | comment | added | user30575 | @alamar That is exactly why I felt my original comment was necessary. It is unfortunate that those who earn a living with words will not parse them more carefully. | |
| Apr 25 at 16:06 | comment | added | user30575 | @BuckThorn the exclusivity is exactly for this reason. There is a massive difference in authorities breaking up a demonstration vs. breaking up a mob as well as arresting protestors vs. arresting rioters. This question demonstrates the general perception problems with allowing these very different things to be defined by the same words. This comment thread has gone on long enough. I will digress and leave the final response to you. | |
| Apr 24 at 7:23 | comment | added | Buck Thorn | Mobs and riots are like screams during an argument that began as conversation. No, screaming is arguably not conversation, but it is relevant to the goal, proceedings, and outcome. | |
| Apr 24 at 7:18 | comment | added | Buck Thorn | @user30575 I suspect the OP, although attempting to generalize, was interested in the particular Russian context and trying to understand how demonstration might be motivated by the individual demonstrator. Your narrow definition would appear to exclude cases of demonstration where participants were forcefully arrested - ie where demonstrations devolved from peacefulness - merely for airing political opinions. These demonstrations never devolved into mobs and riots - they never had the opportunity to because the level of oppression is too tight. | |
| Apr 23 at 21:20 | comment | added | user30575 | @BuckThorn there exist many examples of protests and demonstrations which do not devolve into mobs and riots, therefore not "more the rule than the exception". Those participating in mob or riot behavior are not participating in a peaceful demonstration. There is no need to classify those that are peaceful into the mob or riot by pretending they are the same thing or even on a spectrum. | |
| Apr 23 at 11:03 | comment | added | Buck Thorn | @user30575 They should not be conflated but they lie on a spectrum. The Jan 6 demonstration was an organized event which devolved into mob-incited violence with a clear political goal. That is more the rule than the exception when tempers run high. Note also violence may be perpetrated by a small subset of those participating in an otherwise peaceful demonstration. | |
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| Apr 18 at 17:38 | comment | added | alamar | I've noticed the Western press conflating all four kinds into a single word "protest" which is used indiscriminately, and that's where it got interesting to me. "Why do angry mobs happen" is much less of a mystery. | |
| Apr 18 at 16:32 | comment | added | user30575 | The cited example is not a protest nor a demonstration. Given the allegations in the article it would be more of a mob or a riot. We aren't doing anyone favors by conflating these things. | |
| Apr 18 at 15:56 | answer | added | JonathanReez | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 17 at 11:33 | comment | added | MikeB | Difficult to say what the motivation of the "attendees" was when they set out, but by all accounts it was a riot at one stage, rather than just a protest. I would suggest that a much better discussion point would be the recent protests against Israel, in cities like London. | |
| Apr 17 at 8:56 | answer | added | Buck Thorn | timeline score: 1 | |
| Apr 17 at 8:48 | comment | added | tgdavies | In the particular case of the Assyrian Church riot I think that may have been a Lynch mob rather than a protest. | |
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| Apr 16 at 7:26 | answer | added | Lawnmower Man | timeline score: 12 | |
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| Apr 15 at 22:18 | comment | added | Italian Philosopher | Asking about what motivates people to take part in protests is a good Q. But I am unsure this example is very representative. Is this a protest? It seems more like a riot, proto-lynching. Were the participants appealing to/protesting against the authorities? Or even another group? Or were they just very angry, and spontaneously, disorganizedly, so? | |
| Apr 15 at 19:20 | history | edited | alamar | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 15 at 18:47 | answer | added | 264 champagne bottles on ice | timeline score: 21 | |
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| Apr 15 at 18:18 | comment | added | alamar | It is political theory in the sense I'm not going to focus on any specific real-world event. | |
| Apr 15 at 18:16 | history | edited | alamar |
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| Apr 15 at 18:11 | comment | added | 264 champagne bottles on ice | You've tagged this with 'political theory'. But while [such] theories of protest may be interesting, I'm not sure this is really what you're asking. This seems to me to be more of a social psychology question. | |
| Apr 15 at 18:01 | history | asked | alamar | CC BY-SA 4.0 |